1 00:00:03,110 --> 00:00:01,670 really cool opportunity for anyone who's 2 00:00:04,870 --> 00:00:03,120 interested in astrobiology here at 3 00:00:05,749 --> 00:00:04,880 georgia tech and i highly encourage you 4 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,759 all 5 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,279 to apply if that's what you're 6 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:09,599 interested in 7 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:12,480 all right so this is our program uh for 8 00:00:16,310 --> 00:00:14,639 the day uh we're going to be having a 9 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:16,320 few sections of talks with breaks in 10 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:17,520 between 11 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:19,119 we'll have a lunch break and then a 12 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:21,199 keynote talk and then later in the 13 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:24,000 afternoon we'll have a third 14 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:26,240 section of talks followed by 15 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:28,320 our astrobiology certificate ceremony 16 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:29,519 and closing 17 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,840 so just to talk a little bit about that 18 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:33,760 the astrobiology certificate is an 19 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:37,200 academic certificate that you can obtain 20 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:39,040 as a graduate student here at georgia 21 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:39,840 tech 22 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:40,800 and 23 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:42,480 we have several people who have 24 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:44,320 completed that process over the past 25 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:46,399 year or so we're starting to use this 26 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:49,680 colloquium as an opportunity to 27 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,520 recognize those who have completed that 28 00:00:55,029 --> 00:00:53,120 certificate so 29 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:55,039 that will be happening at the end of the 30 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:55,920 event 31 00:01:01,510 --> 00:00:59,840 we'll have uh several talks here some of 32 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:01,520 which are virtual some of which are in 33 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:03,920 person and for those who of you who are 34 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:06,320 joining us online uh we welcome you and 35 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,320 we hope that uh these talks will be 36 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:10,799 interesting to all of you 37 00:01:15,749 --> 00:01:13,520 i think that's all i have 38 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:15,759 yep so i'm gonna go ahead and hand it 39 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:18,400 over to uh christina and we'll go ahead 40 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,190 awesome can everybody hear me 41 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:30,240 cool so our first talk of the morning 42 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:32,960 there our first section is kind of a 43 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:36,240 mixture of different uh research topics 44 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,280 from 45 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:39,439 a bunch of different 46 00:01:44,469 --> 00:01:41,680 fields so we're going to be having a 47 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:44,479 short session on clathrates cubesats and 48 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:45,920 characterization 49 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:48,079 and the first presenter of the morning 50 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:49,920 is abigail johnson 51 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:51,840 with her talk bacterial clathrate 52 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,479 binding proteins in the deep subsurface 53 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,520 biosphere implications for gas clathrate 54 00:02:02,069 --> 00:01:59,520 stability and habitability 55 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,079 and we'll be uh doing some questions at 56 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:04,000 the end of this 57 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:07,520 talk so if you are an in-person person 58 00:02:11,910 --> 00:02:10,000 uh just raise your hand at the end if 59 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:11,920 you're attending through blue jeans or 60 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:13,120 through youtube 61 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,200 please just leave a comment there and 62 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:17,920 we'll get to questions as time allows 63 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:42,150 hello can you hear and see me 64 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:45,030 um one second let me 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:03:06,710 and 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:19,350 hello hello 67 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:23,670 hmm it looks like we have uh one 68 00:03:27,670 --> 00:03:25,519 some screens are displaying your 69 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:27,680 presentation but some are not so one 70 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,350 no problem can you hear me 71 00:04:07,190 --> 00:03:38,309 yes indeed we can okay that's that's 72 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:09,830 all right looks like everybody online 73 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:12,400 can see your presentation just fine 74 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,439 so i will just pull it up here and 75 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:17,199 the in-person people will just cycle 76 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,040 through manually 77 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:21,440 beautiful 78 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:24,400 ah perfect go ahead 79 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:28,400 all right uh well again my name is abby 80 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:29,759 johnson 81 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:30,800 my 82 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:33,600 advisor is jennifer glass and i am in 83 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:36,320 the ocean science and engineering phd 84 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,880 program i'm actually the first cohort of 85 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:40,720 that program and i'm now in my fifth 86 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:45,440 year so i am actually defending in april 87 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:48,240 so this is my last explorations i've had 88 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,680 a great time 89 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:51,360 and i look forward to seeing where this 90 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:58,150 so first gas clathrates are also known 91 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:01,680 as uh gas hydrates and these are pages 92 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:04,320 of water molecules that trap guest gas 93 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:06,880 molecules so methane clathrates or 94 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,039 methane hydrates are cages of water 95 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:11,039 molecules that trap guests methane 96 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:12,240 molecules 97 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:14,960 and and so these structures form under 98 00:05:20,230 --> 00:05:17,440 high pressure and low temperature and 99 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,240 where there's plenty of gas and on the 100 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:22,240 left you can see the structure of 101 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:25,120 methane clathrate it kind of looks like 102 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:26,479 water ice 103 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:29,600 it has similar physical properties as 104 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:32,240 water ice it probably tastes like water 105 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:35,039 ice except it's flammable and only is 106 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:38,720 stable at high pressures 107 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:40,560 methane clathrates are found along 108 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:42,400 continental margins in and under the 109 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:45,520 perm in and under permafrost excuse me 110 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:47,840 and that's represented by this darker 111 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:49,600 blue color right along the continental 112 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,639 margins 113 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,800 and in this little bar graph you can see 114 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:54,240 that there are 115 00:06:00,390 --> 00:05:57,520 gigatons more uh gas 116 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:00,400 coming from the gas clathrates than our 117 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:02,400 current fossil fuel reserves so they're 118 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:03,280 um 119 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:05,360 hi abigail sorry to interrupt uh 120 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:07,360 unfortunately it looks like online your 121 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:10,000 slides aren't cycling would you mind 122 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:11,520 stopping sharing and then sharing it 123 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:12,319 again 124 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:23,029 uh 125 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:28,710 here let's go with that 126 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:31,110 i tried a different share mode 127 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:39,909 do you just double check going to the 128 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:42,240 next slide and then coming back yeah 129 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:49,990 um 130 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:51,280 let's see 131 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:53,759 okay it looks like 132 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:54,160 on 133 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,560 [Music] 134 00:07:01,189 --> 00:06:58,639 blue jeans it might be working 135 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:01,199 and let me just double check i don't 136 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:03,039 know if that's working on youtube just 137 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:03,919 yet 138 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:11,270 ah perfect now that's working thanks so 139 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:13,360 much for your patience yeah of course 140 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:20,710 all right can i go 141 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:21,919 you're good to go 142 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:23,199 awesome 143 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:25,280 all right 144 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:28,560 um and so i'll just briefly repeat 145 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:30,800 myself that the 146 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,919 figure on the right is a map of where 147 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,720 methane clathrates are found um and 148 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:38,479 there's that bar graph and the bottom 149 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:39,520 left 150 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:40,720 showing that 151 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:42,080 gas from 152 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:45,520 gas clathrate store gigatons more um 153 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:48,160 carbon than our other uh fossil fuel 154 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:49,360 reserves 155 00:07:55,830 --> 00:07:52,080 which um means that gas cloth rates are 156 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,840 point of interest for energy utilization 157 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:57,599 and on the left is just a pretty picture 158 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:00,400 of methane clathrate 159 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:02,319 and what y'all are probably most 160 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:04,720 interested in is that methane clathrates 161 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:06,800 are predicted to be on other planetary 162 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,000 bodies 163 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:10,639 and on the left you can see the possible 164 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:14,080 methane sources and sinks on mars 165 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:15,120 and 166 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:17,199 there's this nice 167 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:19,759 methane clathrate storage predicted to 168 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,440 be in the subsurface 169 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:23,840 and the methane coming 170 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:26,800 to that is perhaps sourced from 171 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:30,000 some sort of methanogenesis or perhaps a 172 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:31,360 water rock reaction called 173 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:33,440 serpentinization 174 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:36,159 um they're they're also predicted to be 175 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:38,560 on uh pluto and you can see the 176 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:40,640 schematic of the cross section where 177 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:42,800 there's a clathrate hydrate 178 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:44,000 uh 179 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:47,120 layer that caps and actually stabilizes 180 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:54,150 uh so back here on earth we have this um 181 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:57,279 pretty bit big issue where natural gas 182 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:00,160 clathrates actually cog clog natural gas 183 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:01,600 pipelines 184 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:03,920 and this is pretty can be pretty tragic 185 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,279 it was the cause of the deep water 186 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:07,200 horizon oil spill 187 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:09,360 and so some of the solutions that we use 188 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:12,080 now is using gas clathrate inhibitors so 189 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:14,560 that could be a thermodynamic inhibitor 190 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:17,680 like methanol or even a kinetic 191 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:20,240 clathrate inhibitor like pvp that stands 192 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,920 for polyvinyl pyrolidone 193 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,600 and there has since 194 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:28,160 recently been a shift towards more 195 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,640 environmentally friendly inhibitors 196 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:32,640 and that's where anti-freeze proteins 197 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:35,920 come in so afps anti-freeze proteins 198 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:37,920 have actually been tested as pretty 199 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:40,320 effective gas clathrate inhibitors to 200 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:43,040 prevent that pipeline clogging 201 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:45,360 and so these could be called the green 202 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:46,959 clathrate inhibitor 203 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,680 and afps come in all shapes and sizes 204 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:51,120 and 205 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:53,920 the type 1 afp is most interesting for 206 00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:56,080 my research it's this alpha helical very 207 00:09:58,630 --> 00:09:57,200 small 208 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,640 protein that's found in the winter 209 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,000 flounder fish 210 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:02,880 there's this type 3 afp 211 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:04,399 that's a little bit different 212 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:06,240 uh of a structure and it's found in the 213 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:08,720 eel pouch and there's this 214 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:11,760 uh mealworm beetle tm afp that's a beta 215 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:13,760 solenoid shape 216 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:17,120 and the purpose of all of these afps 217 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:17,839 in 218 00:10:27,509 --> 00:10:25,360 ice crystals to allow these organisms to 219 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:27,519 survive at sub-zero temperatures so it 220 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:35,430 as you saw afps are structurally diverse 221 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:37,440 um they're also very evolutionarily 222 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,399 diverse so here's a tree of life and all 223 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:42,560 of these symbols represent excuse me 224 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:44,560 represent different structures so 225 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:47,120 they're found in fish insects 226 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,760 plants bacteria etc 227 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:52,000 pretty impressive 228 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:54,640 and the way these things work is that 229 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:57,360 the proton proteins represented as 230 00:11:01,829 --> 00:10:59,120 little red dots 231 00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:01,839 lowers the freezing point and slightly 232 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:03,600 elevates the melting point and that's 233 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:05,760 because when the proteins bind near each 234 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:07,120 other on one 235 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,160 plane of the ice crystal 236 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:12,320 a localized curvature 237 00:11:15,710 --> 00:11:14,320 will occur 238 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:15,720 uh and that makes it less 239 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:18,240 thermodynamically favorable to add more 240 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:19,760 ice onto 241 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:23,040 so that lowers the freezing point 242 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:25,120 and it was that alpha helical protein 243 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:27,760 the type 1 afps that were found to 244 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:30,160 inhibit gas clathrates most effectively 245 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:31,920 out of all the afps 246 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:34,320 and this image is of a molecular 247 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:35,519 dynamics 248 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:37,040 study 249 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:39,680 simulation showing that it's the pendant 250 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:41,600 methyl groups of this 251 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:44,480 threonine alanine alanine motif that 252 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:47,200 actually gets inserted into the empty 253 00:11:57,269 --> 00:11:54,629 so we know that there are 254 00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:57,279 ice dwelling organisms that have evolved 255 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:58,880 ice binding 256 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:00,079 proteins 257 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,040 and there are microbes living in gas 258 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:06,000 clathrates so our question is do these 259 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:07,760 microbes produce 260 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,440 gas cloth rate binding protein 261 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:13,760 our hypothesis is that bacterial 262 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:15,680 proteins from methane clathrate-bearing 263 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:18,720 sediment metagenomes are optimized for 264 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:20,959 binding to gas clathrates and we would 265 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:25,440 call these clothing binding proteins 266 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:28,079 so we have sequenced microbial dna from 267 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:30,399 clathrate-bearing sediment cores off the 268 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:32,399 coast of oregon here in hydrate ridge 269 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:34,000 and off the coast of japan in the 270 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:36,399 shimokita peninsula 271 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:40,399 and we have uh metagenomic data which is 272 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:42,240 if you don't know dna from the entire 273 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:44,160 microbial community 274 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:46,720 and we found that those type 1 afps 275 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:49,200 those short alpha helical proteins were 276 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:51,760 top hits to a few of our 277 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:54,880 these bacterial proteins 278 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,279 so we chose a few of those proteins to 279 00:13:05,190 --> 00:12:59,440 express recombinantly 280 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:07,910 and we 281 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:10,639 formed a type of clathrate not methane 282 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:12,880 clathrate yet but a structure ii 283 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:15,920 clathrate um tetrahydrofuran or thf 284 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:18,320 clathrate in the presence of our 285 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:21,040 putative clathrate binding proteins and 286 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:23,760 we did this by machining this drainage 287 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:27,040 capable beaker and we formed thf 288 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:31,200 clathrate crystals in the presence of 289 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:33,760 different protein treatments and then we 290 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:35,760 extracted the remaining solution after 291 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:37,760 the clathrin crystal had formed and 292 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:40,240 we're left with a beautiful crystal 293 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:43,040 so we tested a salt solution that all 294 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:46,000 the other proteins were suspended in 295 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:48,880 and then we tested negative controls 296 00:13:53,670 --> 00:13:51,360 including cytochrome c 297 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:53,680 and the egfp the green fluorescent 298 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,600 protein by itself because all of the 299 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:57,519 cbps were 300 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:59,600 expressed with a green fluorescent 301 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:01,360 protein 302 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:03,279 and then our positive control is the 303 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:05,199 type 1 afp 304 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:07,360 and of course our our 305 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,639 dbps 306 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:10,959 classroom binding proteins 307 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:13,360 and what we found is that with the green 308 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:15,760 fluorescent protein just by itself 309 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,760 we got a thf clathrate crystal that 310 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:19,760 looks like it grew with nothing else 311 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,199 it's beautiful it's a cubic octahedron 312 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:25,040 and then when we shine blue light on it 313 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:27,199 it did not fluoresce indicating that the 314 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:29,360 egfp did not bind because that's the 315 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:32,880 wavelength at which efp fluoresces 316 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:36,560 whereas the type one afp had a 317 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:39,199 uh wildly different morphology it's more 318 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:40,639 plate-like 319 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:42,079 it's going in different directions and 320 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:43,839 we think that's because the afp is 321 00:14:46,389 --> 00:14:45,600 binding to like one or two of the 322 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:46,399 different 323 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:48,560 planes of the cloth rate forcing growth 324 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:50,370 in one or two directions 325 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:52,480 [Music] 326 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:54,959 and then cbp-3 327 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:58,000 with the egfp and without the egfp 328 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:00,880 resulted in a very similar morphology 329 00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:03,600 and when we shined light on the egfp 330 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:04,639 version 331 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:07,040 it did fluoresce indicating that the 332 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,470 so now we can call them clathrate 333 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:14,399 binding proteins for sure no longer 334 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:15,519 putative 335 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:18,880 and next we grew meth methane clathrate 336 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:21,519 in the presence of those cbps but to do 337 00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:24,880 this we had to machine a high pressure 338 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,959 cell and it is it looks like this um it 339 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:30,720 is made of stainless steel it has a 340 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,519 sapphire window so that we can observe a 341 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,680 methane clathrate shell growing on a 342 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:38,240 treatment droplet we have some valves to 343 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:41,279 control pressure some transducers to 344 00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:43,199 monitor pressure and temperature 345 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:44,639 throughout the entire duration of the 346 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:45,920 experiment 347 00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,959 and to nucleate the hydrate the methane 348 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:50,079 clathrate 349 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:52,839 i increased the pressure to five 350 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:55,199 megapascals and left that for a couple 351 00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:58,000 hours and then i decreased using uh dry 352 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,079 ice the temperature down to 353 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:02,399 about negative 10 degrees celsius or 354 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:05,360 whenever the cloth radium created 355 00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:06,880 and we tested 356 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:09,839 the pbs salt solution and cytochrome c 357 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,720 as 358 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:12,480 negative controls 359 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:15,680 the type 1 afp and actually the pvp 360 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:17,680 which is the commercial inhibitor as our 361 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:19,199 positive controls 362 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:22,800 and of course our cvp 363 00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:24,959 so we actually calculated gas 364 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:27,759 consumption during depressurization and 365 00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:30,320 all this means is that 366 00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:33,199 it's basically indicative of how much 367 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,959 cloth rate was formed 368 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,800 and to calculate this 369 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:38,959 we plotted pressure 370 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:41,759 on the y-axis against temperature 371 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:45,600 and it is an endothermic process when um 372 00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:48,399 clathrate melts and so the thermocouple 373 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,000 will read a decrease in temperature so 374 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:54,959 we basically note when melting visually 375 00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:57,759 began by this blue arrow and then as 376 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:00,240 we're depressurizing 377 00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:01,440 the temperature 378 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,079 decreases and then we have a melting 379 00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:06,319 peak or whenever visual melting ends and 380 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,240 so that's our second point and from 381 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:10,079 there we can calculate based on these 382 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:13,280 two points gas consumption 383 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,240 we also looked at morphology 384 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:18,400 and so this is a droplet before 385 00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:21,039 clathrate forms you can see it's 386 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:21,919 pretty 387 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:24,880 clear uh transparent and a little bit 388 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:28,240 reflective whereas after clathrate forms 389 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:30,880 it's no longer uh reflective and it's 390 00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,510 and so 391 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:37,039 here i'm going to share with you the gas 392 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,240 consumption data so gas consumed is on 393 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:42,320 the x-axis and all the different 394 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:46,320 treatments are on the y-axis um 395 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:50,799 and so this is all uh each individual 396 00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:53,760 dot represents a trial 397 00:17:58,830 --> 00:17:56,400 and that gray oval just 398 00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:58,840 is showing the spread of the data per 399 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,600 treatment and so what we found here was 400 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,039 that pbs 401 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,760 cytochrome and type 1 afp 402 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:06,799 pretty much 403 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:08,400 um 404 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:11,679 lied in this laid in like the same 405 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,200 region of gas consumed and so we would 406 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:17,760 say that type 1 afp did not inhibit 407 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,720 methane clathrate at least at the 408 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:22,400 conditions we used which was 5 409 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:24,640 megapascals and negative 10 degrees 410 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:29,430 whereas pvp which is the commercial 411 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:31,919 inhibitor did inhibit methane cloth rate 412 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:35,840 there was way less gas consumed here 413 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:38,559 and then the cbps 414 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:41,440 also inhibited methane clathrate quite a 415 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,320 bit better than the type 1 afp and so we 416 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,880 tested cbp number 2 417 00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:47,760 3 418 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,760 5 and 6 419 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:51,679 and they pretty much 420 00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:54,840 were in the same area as pvp 421 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,400 and we would say that cbp3 worked 422 00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,240 probably the best 423 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,400 um this is actually a lower 424 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,120 concentration of that protein and it's 425 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:07,360 lying exactly where we would expect it 426 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,480 to be 427 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:11,120 between the full concentration 428 00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:14,320 and our negative controls 429 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:17,039 and in terms of morphology 430 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,480 uh pbs cytochrome and the type 1 afp 431 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,480 treatments resulted in this 432 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,120 more cratered morphology it had a dip in 433 00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:27,120 the center of the droplet 434 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,039 whereas pvp and the cbps 435 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:33,200 a lot of acronyms sorry about that 436 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:36,240 uh have this dome shape 437 00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,240 and i have a little schematic for why we 438 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,160 think this is happening 439 00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:42,240 so here's the droplet before cloth rates 440 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,520 formed 441 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:45,360 zero hours 442 00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,720 and 443 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,559 here's the start of clathrate growth 444 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,320 where it becomes opaque 445 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:52,480 and then at the three hour mark 446 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,320 here we have pvp and cbps and we think a 447 00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,280 very thin clathrate shell forms in the 448 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:01,360 presence of those inhibitors 449 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:03,760 whereas with the pbs cytochrome and type 450 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,039 one afp there's more clathrate growth 451 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:08,960 that actually craters 452 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:11,520 this structure as the internal water is 453 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:13,840 getting converted to cloth rate and 454 00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:20,470 so in conclusion our 455 00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,840 clathrate binding proteins do alter thf 456 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:25,520 clathrate morphology which is a 457 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:28,640 structure two clathrate as well as 458 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:31,440 methane clathrate uh stability and 459 00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:33,600 morphology and that is a structure one 460 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:35,840 class rate 461 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,240 so the implications of these cbps is 462 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,400 that one um 463 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,960 these are pretty extreme environments 464 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,400 that are predicted to be on other 465 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:46,400 planetary bodies and we could 466 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,799 potentially use these proteins to search 467 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:50,480 for life elsewhere 468 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:52,960 um also it has implications for gas 469 00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,440 hydrate stability um and that means 470 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,400 climate change because gas cloth rates 471 00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:01,039 do store gigatons of carbon in the form 472 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,880 of the greenhouse gas methane as well as 473 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:07,200 using these proteins for 474 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,640 these natural gas pipelines 475 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,880 i'd like to acknowledge the nasa 476 00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,200 exobiology grant team 477 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,159 and are my funding sources including the 478 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:19,840 ocean science and engineering phd 479 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,400 fellowship as well as the glass lab for 480 00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:24,240 giving me copious amounts of support 481 00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:26,799 during my phd 482 00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:33,990 [Applause] 483 00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,320 wonderful thank you so much uh do we 484 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:38,960 have any questions for abigail 485 00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:47,590 hey so 486 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,520 my question is uh are these proteins in 487 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,360 these microbes that they're found in are 488 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,600 they being secreted out into sort of the 489 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,480 bulk material or are they um inside the 490 00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,080 cell trying to make sure that they don't 491 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,039 like crystallize themselves or something 492 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:06,000 um we don't have evidence for 493 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,200 secretion um that's what we believe 494 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:11,280 there is evidence for other 495 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:14,960 bacteria and algae doing that in ice um 496 00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,960 habitats but we don't have any um 497 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:20,559 genomic 498 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:22,480 evidence for 499 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,280 either one but we we would think that 500 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,760 these proteins would be secreted 501 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:30,159 um and so basically 502 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,840 they would secrete 503 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,320 into their surrounding environments and 504 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:36,880 they would bind to the surrounding cloth 505 00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:39,679 rates and that would maintain sort of a 506 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:51,190 awesome 507 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:03,510 all right well thank you so much 508 00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:10,789 and now we'll turn this over to william 509 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,830 all right take it away 510 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,000 please okay perfect 511 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,400 awesome thank you 512 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,159 so i'm william rossen i'm a graduate 513 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:00,000 research assistant in the space systems 514 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:03,360 design lab advised by dr leitzy and i am 515 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:05,440 the systems engineering lead for the 516 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,480 visors 517 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,080 mission which is a two-cube set 518 00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,679 distributed telescope for coronal 519 00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,600 observation uh today we're going to talk 520 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,039 a little bit about the science and 521 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,520 engineering goals of this mission so 522 00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,279 um first we'll do a little bit of a 523 00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,679 detour talk about ssdl 524 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,440 and cubesats for those of you that are 525 00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,520 not familiar and then we'll talk about 526 00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,120 some of the science goals and how that 527 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,799 motivates the engineering demonstrations 528 00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:28,080 that we're trying to do 529 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,960 and then 530 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:30,799 hopefully we can conclude with maybe 531 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,600 some takeaways and where we go from here 532 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,080 so what is ssdl the space systems design 533 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,400 lab here at georgia tech we do all kinds 534 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:40,720 of research small set technologies like 535 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:43,600 this also spacecraft navigation 536 00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,919 life detection with dr carr if you guys 537 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,919 are familiar with his work um and some 538 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,760 examples of recent work you may have 539 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,760 heard about the two cubesats we just 540 00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,039 deployed from the international space 541 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:55,520 station there's gt1 right there i worked 542 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,240 on that in undergrad um and then as an 543 00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:00,240 example of kind of the like end-to-end 544 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,440 capabilities that we're trying to 545 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,600 develop this nasa lunar flashlight 546 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:05,440 mission we've been heavily involved we 547 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,960 provided a propulsion system that you 548 00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,360 see here we also integrated and did the 549 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,960 testing campaign for the satellite and 550 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:12,159 we're going to be operating that 551 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,360 satellite 552 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,960 as it orbits the moon searching for 553 00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,200 water ice 554 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,919 so what is a cubesat exactly well it 555 00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:20,960 started out 556 00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,440 as a purely educational endeavor by this 557 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:26,000 design standard maintained by cal poly 558 00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,520 but it's really exploded since then 559 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,440 because it was adopted not just by 560 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,760 educational institutions but also by 561 00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,760 government and commercial entities so 562 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,360 that's really great for us educational 563 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,279 institutions because it means we have 564 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,840 all of these ride share opportunities um 565 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,440 all kinds of high performance 566 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,360 commercially available parts that make 567 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,279 missions fast and cheap 568 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:47,760 as well as lots of published research 569 00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,880 for resources starting off in design and 570 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,400 kind of the result of this is that we 571 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:54,880 have a very compact affordable form 572 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:56,799 factor for space exploration so that's 573 00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:59,200 kind of why cubesats in general 574 00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,159 um 575 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:02,480 so now specifically talking about visors 576 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,159 which is an acronym for 577 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,559 virtual super resolution optics uh with 578 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,400 reconfigurable swarms 579 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,159 so the science score we'll start off 580 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,480 with a bit of an overview um is funded 581 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,480 by the national science foundation from 582 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:17,200 their cubesat ideas lab in 2019 they 583 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,480 brought together a bunch of industry 584 00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,400 professionals and had them kind of come 585 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,400 up with these crazy ideas to really push 586 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,320 the boundaries of what was possible this 587 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,400 is one of those missions trying to 588 00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,240 further knowledge of the solar corona 589 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:31,279 via this distributed telescope concept 590 00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,559 and so in addition to kind of the 591 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:35,039 science goals the demonstration of this 592 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,720 kind of precise formation flying is a 593 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,200 very exciting engineering goal for us 594 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,279 and as far as the status we've passed 595 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,880 critical design review so we're 596 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,880 currently fabricating hardware getting 597 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,640 ready to integrate and test 598 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:49,200 hopefully launching early 2024 around 599 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,840 solar 600 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,039 maximum so this is like the formal 601 00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,960 statement of our minimum mission success 602 00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,480 science goal we're going to try to build 603 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,279 this up a little bit more um but in 604 00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,039 observing the corona using this 605 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,440 distributed telescope not only will we 606 00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,440 hopefully be able to observe 607 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,120 some different phenomenon in the corona 608 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,279 but we will also demonstrate key 609 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:10,799 formation flying technologies so we're 610 00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:11,760 going to talk a little bit more about 611 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,279 these 612 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,720 in turn 613 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,559 and then the other goal in addition to 614 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,640 all this engineering and science 615 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,640 is education and that's a big priority 616 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,799 of nsf so this could also be seen as 617 00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,320 kind of an acknowledgement slide i am a 618 00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,720 very small part of this huge mission 619 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,919 there are partners at all these 620 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,320 educational institutions and part of the 621 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,159 purpose of that is to 622 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,240 educate and train the next generation of 623 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,320 engineers and scientists by interacting 624 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,080 with colleagues and also with 625 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,240 professional engineers and scientists at 626 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,480 places like nasa goddard and the 627 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,320 laboratory for atmospheric and space 628 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,120 physics in colorado 629 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:49,200 so starting with the science goal which 630 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,640 you could state as to achieve 631 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,399 unprecedented resolution in coronal 632 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,480 imagery but why do we care about this 633 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,159 why do we want to do this so 634 00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,000 we're trying to answer the question of 635 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,480 how is the corona heated so the the 636 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,559 surface of the sun is very hot then the 637 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,320 temperature drops off 638 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,799 relatively low it's still very hot um 639 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,960 but the corona is way hotter and that's 640 00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,240 where you get all the space weather 641 00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:11,679 coronal mass ejections and stuff like 642 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,240 that so if we can understand how all 643 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,000 this really rapid heating happens right 644 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,200 here you might have a better 645 00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,960 understanding of space weather 646 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,640 but the problem is that the current 647 00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,880 hypothesis is that these this heating 648 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:25,039 happens in localized regions on 649 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,480 incredibly small scales you know 100 650 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,640 kilometers not very small but when you 651 00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,640 observe 100 kilometers on the sun from 652 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,159 earth you're looking at something that 653 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,799 is 124 000 of a degree 654 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,880 so the problem with that as shown in 655 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,320 this image is that it's beyond our 656 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,960 current capabilities so this is a image 657 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,640 of the solar corona 658 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,799 0.6 arc seconds so you have to increase 659 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,200 that by like a factor of four in order 660 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,960 to observe these structures and then you 661 00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,200 can kind of see what might happen when 662 00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,279 you do that is uh kind of these images 663 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,039 here so we're trying to get somewhere in 664 00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,960 here 665 00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,360 um so how do we achieve this resolution 666 00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:01,440 uh the first thing to know is that we 667 00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,799 want to observe in the extreme 668 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,399 ultraviolet wavelength because that's 669 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,200 where ionized helium emits the best uh 670 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:09,120 but the problem is that these are very 671 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,720 small wavelengths compared to like the 672 00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,399 infrared wavelengths that james webb 673 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,039 uses so we can't use at least it's not 674 00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,200 practical to use mirror-based optics we 675 00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,679 just can't manufacture them to the high 676 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:21,039 enough tolerances in these small 677 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,240 wavelengths 678 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,799 and so what do we do instead we can use 679 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,600 what's called a diffractive optic so 680 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,760 it's the one we're using is a photon 681 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,760 sieve developed at nasa goddard 682 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,159 it's based on the fresnel zone plate 683 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,640 and this creates a interference pattern 684 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,640 that is then post-processed to create an 685 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,960 image and the result is that we get this 686 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,120 diffraction limited resolution which we 687 00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:44,880 need to observe these structures in the 688 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,279 corona so this is all great 689 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,960 we have the technology but the problem 690 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,520 is the focal length of this sieve is 40 691 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:53,600 meters which is which is huge it's the 692 00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,080 size of the space shuttle so rather than 693 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,159 spending hundreds of millions of dollars 694 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,760 to build one satellite to hold this 695 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:01,039 photon sieve 696 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,840 um 697 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,360 there's other solutions so how do we 698 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,520 create this 40 meter telescope we can 699 00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,240 use formation flying with cubesats um 700 00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,399 specifically a two cubesat formation so 701 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,799 the the optic spacecraft up here this is 702 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,880 not quite to scale these are like uh 703 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,120 briefcase size and then again like space 704 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,559 shuttle distance 705 00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,720 um so the optic spacecraft holds the 706 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:22,960 photon sieve and also the solar panels 707 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,440 block kind of stray uv light and then 708 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,960 the detector spacecraft has what's 709 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,360 basically our camera 710 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,960 but the problem again now that you've 711 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,480 put these on two separate spacecraft 712 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:34,000 that's great but now you have to 713 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,240 actually form the telescope and there's 714 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,760 a lot of kind of different requirements 715 00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,799 that go in here but the thing that i 716 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:40,080 want to emphasize is that we're looking 717 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,679 at millimeter level 718 00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:43,360 tolerances in in pretty much every 719 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,799 direction and in the velocity so 720 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,440 millimeter level control of these two 721 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,720 systems that are orbiting around the 722 00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,200 earth so the question of formation 723 00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:53,919 flying is kind of how how do we do that 724 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,320 so first to align them 725 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,840 you can't just necessarily rely on your 726 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,840 orbital plane pointing towards the sun 727 00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:01,120 and then they just kind of follow each 728 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,559 other around you know it's not very 729 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,559 flexible so in order to obtain the 730 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,000 targeting that we want 731 00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:07,440 we have to use what's called a relative 732 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,919 orbit so this is kind of an example here 733 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,760 where the one spacecraft is at this 734 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:14,159 little dot the other one in a relative 735 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,960 sense orbits around so you can produce 736 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:18,880 alignment towards the sun and you can 737 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:21,679 recalculate this trajectory to obtain 738 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,840 any alignment you need towards the sun 739 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,880 but 740 00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,720 what what is a relative orbit exactly 741 00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,880 it's not quite the spacecraft orbiting 742 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,320 each other they're still orbiting the 743 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,880 earth but they're doing so in very 744 00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,039 slightly different orbits so that if you 745 00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,039 say okay forget about the fact they're 746 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,279 orbiting the earth 747 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,200 and just say that this one spacecraft is 748 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,120 the origin here it's not moving and you 749 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,960 just look at the relative motion it can 750 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,200 kind of appear to orbit around another 751 00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,720 and the nice thing about this is that 752 00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,240 you can linearize these equations of 753 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:53,039 motion um which has great implications 754 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,240 and control as we're going to get into 755 00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:58,399 so this is an example of kind of the 756 00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,919 different trajectories we can accomplish 757 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,919 with this relative orbit so we can 758 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,279 design trajectories to have different 759 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,600 purposes this kind of standby relax 760 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,279 trajectory and then we want to do 761 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,440 science we go into this tighter orbit 762 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,360 but how do we actually get there how do 763 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,799 we make sure we stay on track because 764 00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,960 there's other disturbances there's solar 765 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,799 radiation pressure and atmospheric drag 766 00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,720 so how do we actually maintain that 767 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,159 orbit 768 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,159 and that is the question of guidance 769 00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:24,080 navigation and control so we're going to 770 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,279 talk about these 771 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,960 one at a time but this is maybe the 772 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,120 better order is navigation guidance and 773 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:30,720 control but that's not how people ever 774 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,399 say it um 775 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,320 so starting with navigation so how do i 776 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:36,480 determine my position and velocity the 777 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:37,840 nice thing about being in low earth 778 00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,760 orbit is that you're still below the gps 779 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,320 constellation so you can use gps which 780 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,279 is great but gps quote unquote only 781 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,200 provides meter level accuracy which is 782 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,440 really good but again it's not good 783 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,840 enough we need millimeter level accuracy 784 00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,000 and it turns out that the key here is 785 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,840 that we need millimeter level accuracy 786 00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,360 in the relative position and the 787 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,519 relative is really key because we don't 788 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,679 care necessarily as much where we are 789 00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,600 relative to the center of the earth so 790 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,120 we can use a technique called 791 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,039 differential gps 792 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,799 which has been applied on earth for 793 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:10,640 things like aircraft like you can see 794 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:13,600 here and the basic concept is the errors 795 00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,640 in gps vary spatially so if you know 796 00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:18,880 your your your correct position you can 797 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,039 kind of correct your gps measurement and 798 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,039 then broadcast those corrections and 799 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,440 other users can get better accuracy so 800 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,200 we're kind of abstracting that concept 801 00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:29,039 and say well we don't exactly know our 802 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,799 exact position but we know these two 803 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,480 things are close together so we know the 804 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,480 errors have to be similar and so you can 805 00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,080 kind of use the subtraction of the two 806 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,480 measurements to provide millimeter level 807 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,600 accuracy 808 00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,399 and 809 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,919 specifically we use this algorithm 810 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,279 developed at stanford they're one of the 811 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,360 partners on this project called digital 812 00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:46,480 um 813 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,159 but again the challenge here this has to 814 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,080 happen autonomously we can't be sending 815 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,279 information back and forth to the 816 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,880 spacecraft they have to talk to each 817 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,640 other so how do we enable them to talk 818 00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,399 to each other well we have what's called 819 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,159 an inner satellite link 820 00:34:02,470 --> 00:33:59,679 and this has to be omnidirectional we 821 00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,480 can't rely on exactly how they're being 822 00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,679 pointed because again they're orbiting 823 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,519 around each other so we have these patch 824 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,840 antennas on every face of the spacecraft 825 00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,240 we have a second dedicated radio not for 826 00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:12,159 space to ground communication but for 827 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,440 you could call it space to space 828 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520 communication and that enables them to 829 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,760 share the navigation data that they need 830 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,040 in order to 831 00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,800 provide this millimeter level accuracy 832 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,560 so that's the first kind of key enabling 833 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,320 technology or you could think about as a 834 00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,320 pair is the navigation algorithm and 835 00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,079 this inner satellite link 836 00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,760 so we know where we are but what if 837 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,119 we're not where we want to be or what if 838 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,720 we need to change where we are so we're 839 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,280 in this standby orbit which is great for 840 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,960 downlinking data but we need to go do 841 00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,440 science so how do we do that we have to 842 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,440 calculate a trajectory which would 843 00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:42,960 involve a maneuver plan so this is the 844 00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,280 problem of guidance and we can actually 845 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,359 use the fact that we can linearize the 846 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:49,200 relative equations of motion to do this 847 00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:50,480 very easily 848 00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,679 and you can actually pose it as an 849 00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:53,119 optimization problem which is what we do 850 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,839 on visors so there's an onboard 851 00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:57,839 convex optimization solver that is 852 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,160 solving these constrained problems to 853 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,400 minimize our propellant consumption 854 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,800 and also subject it to the constraints 855 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,480 of our propulsion system because it 856 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,320 can't do everything so we know what it 857 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,480 can do and we're able to minimize how 858 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,560 much propellant we have to expend 859 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,680 and you get this trigger so you have 860 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:15,760 this blue trajectory and it calculates 861 00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:18,000 all your little maneuvers to get there 862 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,680 you can also use this for control so if 863 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:21,680 you're in this red orbit you can use it 864 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,960 to stabilize and make sure that you 865 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,040 don't leave the orbit for example so 866 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,640 this is another enabling technology as 867 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:29,280 these optimal guidance algorithms 868 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,640 so this is great we have all these 869 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,560 maneuvers we know we need to do but how 870 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,280 do we actually do it so obviously use 871 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,880 thrusters been done on spacecraft 872 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:38,640 forever but they're very complicated 873 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,599 they require pressure tanks and valves 874 00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,680 and explosive propellants that are 875 00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,920 highly toxic right which is not great 876 00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:48,079 for cubesats especially if you're on 877 00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:49,359 part of a larger launch vehicle they 878 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,480 don't like that 879 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,440 so what we do is we 3d print propulsion 880 00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,119 systems and this is something that we've 881 00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,960 done several times at georgia tech and 882 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,280 we use what's called cold gas so in this 883 00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,359 case it's actually a refrigerant that's 884 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,079 relatively non-toxic 885 00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,520 and the great thing about this is we can 886 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:07,119 fit it into these small irregular 887 00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,240 volumes we've got all these other 888 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:11,200 important science and mission payloads 889 00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,560 and we can kind of cram it into the 890 00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,720 bottom here because we're 3d printing it 891 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:17,119 um and it really gives us a lot of 892 00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,320 performance things that wouldn't have 893 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,079 been possible in a cubesat form factor 894 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,560 before so this miniaturized propulsion 895 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,000 is another enabling technology that 896 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:26,240 we're demonstrating here 897 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,599 so now we can put it all together we 898 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,119 have relative navigation with meter 899 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,440 level accuracy we have guidance 900 00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,200 algorithms to figure out how to get 901 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,560 where we need to go we have this 902 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,800 miniaturized propulsion system to get us 903 00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,200 there and so these form kind of the key 904 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,359 formation flying enabling technologies 905 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,440 that will allow us to expand what we can 906 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:45,920 do in a cubesat form factor 907 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,680 and where do we go with this so you know 908 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:49,119 maybe in the context of kind of 909 00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,240 exploring 910 00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,400 the universe around us one potential 911 00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:54,560 application is observing exoplanets so 912 00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,079 they're very hard to observe because 913 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,599 they're very dim compared to the stars 914 00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,680 that they orbit around so one concept 915 00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,119 that's being explored is this kind of 916 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:02,880 star uh star shade 917 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,200 telescope combination so you would fly 918 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,640 in formation it would work a little bit 919 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,560 differently you'd be a lot further away 920 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,320 but this giant star shade would block 921 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,160 out the light of the star allowing the 922 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,920 telescope to observe exoplanets kind of 923 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:16,240 along the fringe so that's one potential 924 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,440 application 925 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,359 there's others and kind of these swarm 926 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,520 concepts where instead of getting like 927 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,800 one 928 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,880 measurement from your instrument per 90 929 00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,640 minutes as you orbit around you have a 930 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,079 string of them and you can maybe get 931 00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,240 like one every minute for like a 10 932 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:33,200 minute period or something like that 933 00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,240 so 934 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:36,079 takeaways we're trying to enable 935 00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,760 groundbreaking resolution in coronal 936 00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,320 imagery to analyze heat release regions 937 00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:42,079 in the sun and if we succeed in this 938 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:44,079 goal we will also be demonstrating 939 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,520 several key formation flying 940 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,800 technologies 941 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,560 and in terms of the bigger picture this 942 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,640 is really exciting because if we can 943 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,320 meet these really ambitious goals if we 944 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,240 can do better than these 100 million 945 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,480 dollar solar observatories in a like 946 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,560 singles of millions of dollars budget 947 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,160 it's a really interesting paradigm that 948 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,400 will enable nasa and nsf and other 949 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,320 partners to really strive for some more 950 00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:05,920 ambitious goals which is already 951 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,359 happening you know there's a lot of nasa 952 00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,280 cubesats they're doing really exciting 953 00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,960 science and that's kind of the really 954 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,119 interesting uh paradigm here 955 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,560 um and again i just want to emphasize 956 00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,400 you know i stayed pretty high level here 957 00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:18,079 to kind of introduce you to the mission 958 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,680 but we are we've we've designed all the 959 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,320 hardware and we're working to uh build 960 00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:23,920 and test components right now which is 961 00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,390 uh yeah that's all i have so i'd be 962 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,280 happy to answer any questions 963 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,480 [Applause] 964 00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:36,240 i think we've got time for one question 965 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,390 so uh 966 00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,640 why is formation flying an easier 967 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,240 solution than using something like 968 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:48,240 cables 969 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:49,200 so 970 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:50,160 um 971 00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:53,760 tethers are an option 972 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,240 kind of less flexible 973 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,400 in the sense that like once you're kind 974 00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:02,240 of orbiting each other around the tether 975 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,119 it's a little more difficult to change 976 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,880 the way in which you're orbiting to a 977 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,800 line in a different way so you would 978 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,200 still need to be able to 979 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,119 for example control your position to 980 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,720 like millimeter level accuracy because 981 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,800 the tethers are i said they're not 982 00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,240 flexible but they are flexible is the 983 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,920 problem too right so you're gonna get 984 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:22,240 bending and warping so that is an option 985 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,359 and it's something that people have 986 00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,320 explored um but it kind of hasn't gained 987 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,320 as much traction because you still run 988 00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,599 into the same problems with having to 989 00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,280 figure out where you are and needing to 990 00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,520 be able to actuate yourself to change 991 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,440 where you're pointing um and stuff like 992 00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:37,280 that but that definitely is an option 993 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,320 and there are people that are looking 994 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:40,640 into doing cubesat swarms with tethers 995 00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,670 awesome thank you so much 996 00:40:06,069 --> 00:39:50,160 all right and now we'll turn this over 997 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:10,950 which one's yours 998 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:30,150 right 999 00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,319 this is going to be awesome 1000 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:36,720 thank you very much 1001 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:47,750 hi uh good morning i am excited to be at 1002 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,760 my very first explorations colloquium 1003 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,520 i'm coming to you guys from kennesaw 1004 00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:53,200 state university 1005 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,560 where i work with dr heather abbott 1006 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:57,200 lyons some of you may already know her 1007 00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,880 and i'm currently finishing up my 1008 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,359 master's thesis there where i am focused 1009 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,960 on the characterization and thermal 1010 00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:05,119 studies of metal phosphites 1011 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,720 um and their potential role in 1012 00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,160 astrobiology 1013 00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:09,920 so if you're not already familiar with 1014 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,839 the origin of life and the phosphorus 1015 00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,640 problem uh we know that the bio that 1016 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,160 most of the biogenic elements were 1017 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,480 present at least in part in a volatile 1018 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,400 phase on the early earth 1019 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,960 except for phosphorus 1020 00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,880 um it is believed that the conditions of 1021 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,319 the early earth would have been too 1022 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,359 oxidizing due to the presence of water 1023 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,760 uh for phosphorus to exist in a volatile 1024 00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:34,160 phase such as phosphine 1025 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,359 additionally 1026 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,839 the majority of phosphorus found on 1027 00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,920 planet earth is found in the form of 1028 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,319 phosphate which contains phosphorus in 1029 00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,960 its most oxidized uh form 1030 00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,720 the issue with phosphates on planet 1031 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,400 earth is that they are very 1032 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,560 unreactive with organics as well as in 1033 00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,800 soluble and aqueous environments so that 1034 00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,319 leads us to the question of how did 1035 00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:56,720 phosphorus become incorporated into so 1036 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,160 many biological molecules and processes 1037 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,400 our hypothesis is that metal phosphites 1038 00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,400 could have contributed a source of 1039 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,480 reactive phosphorus that would have been 1040 00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,920 necessary to facilitate the 1041 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,079 incorporation of phosphorus into these 1042 00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,000 prebiotic molecules 1043 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,160 there are many natural sources of 1044 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,720 phosphite that we have 1045 00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:18,640 literature 1046 00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,520 evidence for one of which is meteoritic 1047 00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:23,599 meteoritic corrosion products one of 1048 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,720 those meteoritic 1049 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,560 minerals is known as shriversite which 1050 00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,040 has been shown to corrode in 1051 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,440 aqueous solution to various different 1052 00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:35,680 phosphorus species one of those being 1053 00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,240 the reduced form of phosphite 1054 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,839 other natural sources of phosphite 1055 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,240 include geothermal pools as well as the 1056 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:43,920 iron redox geochemistry that would have 1057 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,800 occurred in early archaean oceans 1058 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,880 as well as lightning-induced reduction 1059 00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,800 of phosphorus minerals 1060 00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:53,200 to further support the availability of 1061 00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:56,079 phosphites we also know that various 1062 00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,440 bacteria are capable of using phosphite 1063 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:02,480 in metabolic processes 1064 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,359 oh 1065 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:05,440 also mental phosphates are significantly 1066 00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,720 more soluble in aqueous environments 1067 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,640 as compared to their phosphate 1068 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,040 counterparts so for example calcium 1069 00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:14,880 phosphate has a solubility constant on 1070 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,920 the order of 10 to the minus 8 whereas 1071 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,599 calcium phosphate found as 1072 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,200 hydroxyapatite 1073 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,800 has a solubility constant of 10 to the 1074 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,280 minus 58. so metal phosphites would have 1075 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:27,760 been significantly more available in 1076 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,760 neutral waters found on the early earth 1077 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,280 since metal phosphites are not 1078 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,040 commercially available we synthesize 1079 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,960 them ourselves following a very simple 1080 00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,599 two-step reaction uh this perform both 1081 00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,920 steps performed in aqueous solution at 1082 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,119 room temperature 1083 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,520 uh first we react sodium hydroxide with 1084 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,400 phosphorus acid to create sodium 1085 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:50,480 phosphite and then we react the sodium 1086 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:53,040 phosphite with a metal chloride to yield 1087 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,150 these metal phosphites were also 1088 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,160 characterized and studied using x-ray 1089 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,480 diffraction thermogravimetric analysis 1090 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,640 infrared spectroscopy as well as 1091 00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,280 phosphorus nmr 1092 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,359 additionally these metal phosphites were 1093 00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,000 subjected to heating at 1094 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,560 uh excuse me heating in a nitrogen 1095 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,200 atmosphere in a tube furnace up to 600 1096 00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,359 degrees in increments of 100 degrees 1097 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,359 celsius after each target temperature 1098 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,440 was reached we would pull the sample and 1099 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:25,839 analyze um using all of these methods 1100 00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,040 once again 1101 00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,119 for time's sake we do have data on all 1102 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,960 four of these metal phosphites but um it 1103 00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:32,319 is a lot of data so we're only going to 1104 00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,670 um following the synthesis methods that 1105 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,359 we following the synthesis of each of 1106 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,960 the metal phosphates we characterize 1107 00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:43,920 them 1108 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,920 with x-ray diffraction which provides us 1109 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,119 information about the chemical 1110 00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:49,200 composition of our sample 1111 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:50,960 and here i'm showing you the 1112 00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:53,760 experimental trace shown in black for 1113 00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,240 our synthesized metal phosphite which 1114 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,640 appears to agree best with 1115 00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,640 the calcium phosphite standard that's 1116 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,119 found in the xrd database 1117 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,280 shown here to you as the blue drop the 1118 00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,359 light blue drop lines 1119 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,280 and plotted against two impurities 1120 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:11,200 calcium phosphate as well as calcium 1121 00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:12,560 hydroxide 1122 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,720 so we were confident that our sample was 1123 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,720 mostly calcium phosphite and if any 1124 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,520 impurities did exist they did not 1125 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:23,440 they were not present in large enough 1126 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,710 following that we use thermogravimetric 1127 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,720 analysis in order to gather some 1128 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,920 information about the waters of 1129 00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,400 hydration and any oxidation events that 1130 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:37,599 would have been occurring in these 1131 00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,480 calcium in calcium phosphite 1132 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,319 and thermogravimetric analysis measures 1133 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,880 changes in the mass of 1134 00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,720 a sample is a function of its 1135 00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,839 temperature 1136 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,599 and here i'm showing you 1137 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,760 um a temperature scan of calcium 1138 00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:52,960 phosphite 1139 00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,760 from 30 to 900 degrees celsius performed 1140 00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,240 in both air shown as the blue trace as 1141 00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,520 well as argon shown as a black trace a 1142 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,800 couple of things that i wanted to point 1143 00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,440 out here are that we see relatively the 1144 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:07,119 same characteristics 1145 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:08,079 um 1146 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:11,440 in the tga data in both air and argon 1147 00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,800 the first of which being this 1148 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:16,880 the first of which being the significant 1149 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,839 and rapid mass loss uh between 200 and 1150 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,240 300 degrees celsius which is attributed 1151 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:24,640 to the loss of waters of hydration of 1152 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,520 the calcium phosphite and from this we 1153 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,760 can also calculate the number of 1154 00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:30,880 hydration 1155 00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,319 waters that are in the sample which were 1156 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,480 calculated to be one in both air and 1157 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,109 the probably more interesting piece of 1158 00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:42,240 data here is that in both scans we see 1159 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,440 this 1160 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,079 significant increase in mass 1161 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,160 in the higher temperature region which 1162 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,720 is attributed to oxidation events that 1163 00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,480 are happening and what was the most 1164 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,720 interesting to us is that we see 1165 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:57,119 relatively the same amount of oxidation 1166 00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:58,240 in both 1167 00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,440 the argon purge as well as the air purge 1168 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,839 so to us this indicated that whatever 1169 00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,079 oxidation was occurring 1170 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:08,800 was not a direct result of oxidation by 1171 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,200 the o2 molecules that were found in air 1172 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,480 but rather from something else 1173 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,079 so in order to further investigate the 1174 00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,960 oxidation species the oxidized species 1175 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,680 that were being formed we performed 1176 00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:23,599 proton-coupled phosphorus nmr on these 1177 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:25,119 samples 1178 00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,880 after they had been dried to each target 1179 00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:28,559 temperature all of the samples were 1180 00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,400 prepped at 100 millimolar and ph 1181 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,960 adjusted to a ph4 for consistency in 1182 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,319 comparison 1183 00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,839 and the key things that i wanted to 1184 00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:37,839 point out here are that there's no 1185 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,640 variability between the samples that are 1186 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:41,920 um 1187 00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:45,680 unheated 1188 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,319 um versus after it had been heated to 1189 00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:50,640 200 degrees celsius we don't see any new 1190 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,119 species forming in the phosphorus nmr 1191 00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,079 there however at about three at 300 1192 00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,240 degrees celsius we see the presence of 1193 00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,480 an oxidized species form 1194 00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:02,079 phosphate 1195 00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,440 and that peak 1196 00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:06,000 at zero ppm continues to increase in 1197 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,440 intensity as we 1198 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,280 get 1199 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,800 higher in temperature which also 1200 00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,720 indicates that not only do we have the 1201 00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,559 presence of the oxidized species but it 1202 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,400 continues to the sample continues to 1203 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:18,880 oxidize as we heat it 1204 00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:20,800 at higher temperatures for 1205 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:23,839 so 500 and 600 degrees celsius we see 1206 00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:27,680 uh the appearance of um phosphate dimers 1207 00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,319 and trimers so pyrophosphate and 1208 00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:32,559 triphosphate which indicates us that the 1209 00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:34,559 oxidized species was starting to 1210 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,030 after running some longer 1211 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:42,800 phosphorus nmr experiments we were able 1212 00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:45,680 to resolve a few more peaks between -3 1213 00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,720 and -8 ppm which have been assigned to 1214 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:50,400 pyrophosphite 1215 00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,359 the 1216 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,680 reduced form of phosphorus that is 1217 00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:58,880 phosphite 1218 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,280 so our major takeaways from the nmr data 1219 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,200 are that we not only have oxidation 1220 00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,800 occurring but we also have 1221 00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,559 polymerization occurring at the exact 1222 00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:07,839 same temperature so we have two 1223 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,119 different processes happening at the 1224 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,280 same time 1225 00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:13,520 and if we look at the infrared region 1226 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,760 that's associated with the 1227 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,160 stretching modes for the po3 for the 1228 00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,000 phosphite ion 1229 00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,599 we can see that at 300 400 and 500 1230 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,079 degrees we see some significant changes 1231 00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,839 in the features that are associated with 1232 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,119 the po3 1233 00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,599 stretching modes this further 1234 00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,920 corroborates with the temperatures that 1235 00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,040 we saw 1236 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:36,800 oxidized and polymerized species 1237 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,230 so we ran a series of isothermal 1238 00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:46,000 experiments i've only shown you a 1239 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,359 selection here because we do have quite 1240 00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:49,040 a bit of data on this 1241 00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,559 and i know that there's a lot going on 1242 00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,559 in this slide so i just want to draw 1243 00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,400 your attention to a few things 1244 00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,119 one we know that we have quite a bit of 1245 00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,839 variability in the amount of oxidation 1246 00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,200 seen 1247 00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,559 even at the same isothermal temperature 1248 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,800 however when we pre-dry one of our 1249 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:07,920 samples 1250 00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,880 to 300 degrees in a tube furnace before 1251 00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,119 performing an isothermal experiment we 1252 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,520 see little to no oxidation occurring 1253 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:17,280 after the waters of hydration have been 1254 00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:19,280 driven off this was really interesting 1255 00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:20,960 to us um 1256 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,200 and it then suggested that it's actually 1257 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,880 interstitial waters that are found in 1258 00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,640 the calcium phosphite sample that are 1259 00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:28,880 causing the oxidation rather than the 1260 00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,319 oxygen found in the air purge 1261 00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,920 another thing that i wanted to point out 1262 00:50:37,870 --> 00:50:35,680 is that at some temperatures we see 1263 00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:37,880 these oscillatory patterns in the 1264 00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:40,960 isotherm um which at first we were 1265 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:43,359 really taken aback by but after thinking 1266 00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:44,640 about it for a little while we 1267 00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,119 remembered that based on the nmr studies 1268 00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,040 that we performed we had two different 1269 00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,040 species we had two different processes 1270 00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,400 that were occurring remember we had the 1271 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,720 polymerization happening as well as the 1272 00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,599 oxidation and so uh this indicated to us 1273 00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,440 that these two processes might be 1274 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:01,440 competing with each other which would be 1275 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,480 forming this oscillatory pattern um also 1276 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,559 upon a literature review 1277 00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,440 we then realized we also learned that 1278 00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,319 the oscillations in tga data could also 1279 00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,559 be indicative of diffusion controlled 1280 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,200 kinetics so we wanted to test for this 1281 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,760 of course so we took one of our samples 1282 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,480 um and saved it to a relatively uniform 1283 00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,240 particle size before performing the 1284 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,480 isotherm and we see that those 1285 00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:29,040 oscillations have now been diminished 1286 00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,839 so 1287 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,359 a couple of conclusions that we can take 1288 00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:32,640 away from this 1289 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,559 uh we do believe that particle size has 1290 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,480 a significant role in the reactivity 1291 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,839 that we see 1292 00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,839 because it may affect the amount of 1293 00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:43,440 interstitial water that's present in the 1294 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,359 sample 1295 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,240 and we also know that the interstitial 1296 00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,319 water is causing the oxidation that we 1297 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:53,599 see in the isotherms of the sample 1298 00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:54,640 and that 1299 00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,200 as the system is polymerized it releases 1300 00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,920 more water which further oxidizes the 1301 00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,680 sample 1302 00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,920 this can be further corroborated by what 1303 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,599 i think is probably the most interesting 1304 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,839 part of this data 1305 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,599 if we look at the infrared region that's 1306 00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,480 associated with the phosphorus hydrogen 1307 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:14,559 stretching mode of the molecule we can 1308 00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,480 see a couple of things that kind of 1309 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,200 align with what we're trying to say so 1310 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:21,680 initially we thought that the peak that 1311 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,680 uh shows up 24 36 wave numbers 1312 00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,720 was the um ph stretching mode of calcium 1313 00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:31,359 phosphite however we now believe that 1314 00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,319 that mode is associated with a ph bond 1315 00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:35,760 where the hydrogen is actually 1316 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,640 interacting somehow with a neighboring 1317 00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,920 oxygen 1318 00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,920 atom that could have that could be on 1319 00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,079 either a full water molecule or on a 1320 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,800 hydroxyl 1321 00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:47,920 as we 1322 00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,559 drive off the waters we see this new 1323 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,599 feature grow in around 2500 wave numbers 1324 00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:55,760 which we believe to be the 1325 00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:58,720 ph the true ph stretch and we believe 1326 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:01,760 that it's growing in at 300 degrees as 1327 00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,760 the ph bond itself is strengthened um as 1328 00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,000 the waters you know go away from the 1329 00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:09,920 sample and the oxygen is no longer 1330 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,319 pulling the electron density away from 1331 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,400 the hydrogen molecule which allows this 1332 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:17,520 peak to be blue shifted 1333 00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,720 um 1334 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,800 however one thing that we do find is 1335 00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:23,520 interesting which kind of aligns with um 1336 00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,000 the data that we gathered on the tga is 1337 00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,640 that that initial peak that we 1338 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:30,960 attributed to being the ph stretch is 1339 00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,680 retained in the sample which tells us 1340 00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,240 that um there is still some form of 1341 00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,559 water being retained in the sample up to 1342 00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,640 500 degrees celsius whether it be a full 1343 00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,720 water molecule or in the form of a 1344 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,880 hydroxyl 1345 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,559 so the conclusions that we can take away 1346 00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:48,720 from these data are that we do in fact 1347 00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,920 have simultaneous processes happening 1348 00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,440 one of which being the oxidation of 1349 00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,599 phosphite as well as the polymerization 1350 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:57,359 of both the reduced and the oxidized 1351 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,800 species 1352 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,480 and we do think that we have diffusion 1353 00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,920 controlled kinetics that are playing a 1354 00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,920 role at higher temperatures this 1355 00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,520 combined with these two competing 1356 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,359 processes make it really difficult for 1357 00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,359 us to pull any thermodynamic 1358 00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,119 information from these systems though we 1359 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:13,040 have tried 1360 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,720 as they don't appear to follow first 1361 00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,240 order kinetics so it is difficult to 1362 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:17,920 gather that information 1363 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,800 um and these results on a broader scale 1364 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,280 suggest that calcium phosphites 1365 00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,880 are unlikely to be preserved in the 1366 00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:27,280 geological rock records in their reduced 1367 00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:28,960 form so you would instead see them in 1368 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,150 and with that i would like to thank my 1369 00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,160 pi dr heather abbott lion as well as the 1370 00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,000 undergraduates in the lab that have 1371 00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,240 helped me collect some of this data 1372 00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:42,079 and we are in collaboration with dr 1373 00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,599 matthew pasek 1374 00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,760 who is our phosphorous nmr expert at the 1375 00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:47,599 university of south florida 1376 00:54:50,180 --> 00:54:49,040 and with that i'm happy to take any 1377 00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:50,190 questions 1378 00:55:08,470 --> 00:54:57,270 fantastic 1379 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,710 hey so i 1380 00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:13,359 uh is it i'm just wondering how 1381 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,559 interesting 1382 00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,960 is it for for just from just from the 1383 00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,200 perspective of interesting things that 1384 00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:21,280 the phosphites can do 1385 00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,720 that just 1386 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,079 accidentally doing an experiment you 1387 00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,839 started getting a you started getting 1388 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,000 oscillatory dynamics does that does that 1389 00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:31,280 suggest that these things can uh 1390 00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,799 do interesting uh chemistry that there's 1391 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,119 um that there's uh 1392 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,480 because i i'm not familiar with uh with 1393 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,960 this um with this 1394 00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,400 with this chemistry is that is it 1395 00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:46,400 interesting that just accidentally you 1396 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:53,589 [Music] 1397 00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,200 that's a good question and i appreciate 1398 00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,280 that question very much so at first 1399 00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,640 initially no i didn't think it was 1400 00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,319 interesting at all 1401 00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,799 until we started to realize that 1402 00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,160 some of those temperatures where we were 1403 00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:06,319 seeing those oscillations were also 1404 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,760 occurring at the same temperatures that 1405 00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160 we started seeing two processes 1406 00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,079 occurring from the nmr 1407 00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,079 so the two different processes of 1408 00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:16,319 oxidation and polymerization we believe 1409 00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,000 are what's causing those oscillations in 1410 00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,640 the tga data that we saw 1411 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,319 as far as the chemistry goes we are 1412 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,480 still actually trying to think about and 1413 00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:28,240 work out some of those mechanisms by 1414 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:30,000 which things are happening and things 1415 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,790 awesome well thank you so much kimberly 1416 00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:43,440 [Applause] 1417 00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:46,480 and we'll be taking a break now and 1418 00:57:10,790 --> 00:56:49,839 we'll see you all at 1105. 1419 00:57:10,800 --> 00:58:03,170 [Music] 1420 00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:03,430 [Applause] 1421 00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:15,360 i can keep on knocking doors 1422 00:59:12,930 --> 00:58:18,559 [Music] 1423 00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:12,940 so 1424 01:00:05,750 --> 00:59:57,200 [Music] 1425 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,020 so 1426 01:04:23,109 --> 01:00:14,830 [Music] 1427 01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:23,119 all right for our second session this is 1428 01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:24,640 gonna be all about mars i know 1429 01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:26,319 everybody's so excited i'm really 1430 01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,400 excited um so we've got 1431 01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,079 we've got um 1432 01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:34,480 three talks in this session um so we 1433 01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:37,599 have uh dr james ray's group and then dr 1434 01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,400 francis hernandez's group 1435 01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,799 and so the first talk is going to be 1436 01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:44,319 emmy hughes 1437 01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:46,000 and all 1438 01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:47,760 if you have questions online or in 1439 01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:50,319 person we'll do that after her talk 1440 01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,680 and then after this whole session will 1441 01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:53,119 be lunch 1442 01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:54,720 so just to get it started emmy if you 1443 01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,359 want to come up here 1444 01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,599 and have you take it away did i ever put 1445 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:01,280 your thinking 1446 01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,549 i think this is yours yeah yeah oh nice 1447 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:17,589 all right 1448 01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:20,069 okay uh hello everyone my name is emmy 1449 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,240 hughes i'm a first year phd student here 1450 01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:24,480 at georgia tech working with dr james 1451 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:25,280 ray 1452 01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,640 and today i'll be talking about 1453 01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:28,799 geochemical and mineralogical evidence 1454 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:30,880 against hydrothermal conditions in 1455 01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,440 aerodania basin on mars so i'll take you 1456 01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:35,440 through the title a little bit 1457 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,480 i'm using geochemistry and mineralogy on 1458 01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:41,280 sort of regional scale so sort of course 1459 01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:44,240 uh resolution but broad coverage to sort 1460 01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:45,760 of investigate the extent of 1461 01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:48,079 hydrothermal conditions in area dania 1462 01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:49,920 basin it's a sort of ancient basin 1463 01:05:54,069 --> 01:05:52,319 system on mars dated to sort of early 1464 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:54,079 martian potentially habitable time 1465 01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:55,119 periods 1466 01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,799 that may have had and hosted a 1467 01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:58,400 hydrothermal system and so i'm 1468 01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,920 investigating whether the regional 1469 01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,000 geochemistry and the mineralogy sort of 1470 01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,400 corroborate the existence of that system 1471 01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:06,480 and as you can see by the word against 1472 01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,400 here maybe we're seeing that it might 1473 01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,839 not 1474 01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,520 um so just to 1475 01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,280 sort of back up a little bit and think 1476 01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,200 about the martian regolith on broad 1477 01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:17,440 scales we know that mars is mostly 1478 01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,319 basaltic um so sort of uh relatively 1479 01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,480 primitive igneous rocks uh and we know 1480 01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,559 that the regolith is composed of that 1481 01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:26,480 primary basaltic material so you have 1482 01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:28,400 mostly pyroxenes plagioclases and 1483 01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:30,559 olivine minerals but we also know that 1484 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:31,760 you know there's been some water 1485 01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,440 alteration processes that have happened 1486 01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,160 on mars and the production of secondary 1487 01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,319 minerals uh from the sort of alteration 1488 01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:40,640 of that primary basaltic mineralogy so 1489 01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:42,559 you get things like sulfates chlorides 1490 01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:44,799 carbonates clays and hematite um here 1491 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,200 are some lovely uh hematite sort of 1492 01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,359 nodules uh that are called blueberries 1493 01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:51,119 that were identified and are really nice 1494 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,799 evidence of secondary alteration 1495 01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:54,720 processes we also have some iron 1496 01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:56,559 sulfates up here uh that you can see 1497 01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,240 from the rover tracks from the spirit 1498 01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:00,400 rover so when that rover was sort of 1499 01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:02,319 doing its daily business it unearthed 1500 01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,760 some interesting geology that there's 1501 01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,520 this sort of layer of iron sulfate in 1502 01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:07,039 the martian regolith 1503 01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,440 um so as you can see we have a few 1504 01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:10,799 different ways of constraining that 1505 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,039 mineralogy we have in-situ data from 1506 01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:15,680 ridiani gusev and gale and now of course 1507 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:18,000 jezera with our perseverance rover we 1508 01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:19,680 also have these iron sulfates and then 1509 01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:21,520 we also know that there's some soil 1510 01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,599 variation potentially across the martian 1511 01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,440 topographic dichotomy 1512 01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,200 but there are also some unknowns and 1513 01:07:32,069 --> 01:07:29,039 some of these unknowns include whether 1514 01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,079 or not the soil is relatively homogeneic 1515 01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:34,799 or sort of the same as a global unit 1516 01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:37,039 across mars or whether it's more locally 1517 01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,960 derived whether you have sort of erosion 1518 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,400 of local bedrock 1519 01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:42,480 and it might be more heterogeneic across 1520 01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,359 mars 1521 01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,359 we also uh don't necessarily know the 1522 01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,200 mechanical and the chemical pathways of 1523 01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,960 alteration and whether we're getting 1524 01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,520 sort of in-situ alteration ongoing now 1525 01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,440 if maybe we're even forming low ph 1526 01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,760 brines on mars on the modern surface and 1527 01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:57,039 finally we don't really know if there's 1528 01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,119 sort of soil horizons or stratification 1529 01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,119 or if it's relatively homogeneous on a 1530 01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,920 sort of lateral dimension or 1531 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,839 looking up and down 1532 01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:07,440 so we have some data sets that we can 1533 01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,799 use to investigate these kinds of 1534 01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,640 questions one of the main ones i'm 1535 01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:12,480 working with is gamma ray spectroscopy 1536 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,160 data so this is 1537 01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,760 sort of gamma data it gives you 1538 01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:17,839 elemental abundances for mars and you 1539 01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:20,480 can see that it's about five degrees by 1540 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,799 five degree pixel scale so relatively 1541 01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,560 coarse coarse-grained you can use this 1542 01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:26,640 to reconstruct the sort of 1543 01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,359 regional uh differences in geology and 1544 01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,719 sort of understand the kind of 1545 01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,120 large-scale geologic history of mars so 1546 01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:35,040 we have a variety of mineral-forming 1547 01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,640 elements that we can constrain with 1548 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,480 gamma-ray spectroscopy data but there 1549 01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:39,600 are some that we don't have and this 1550 01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:42,000 includes magnesium phosphorus sodium and 1551 01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:43,759 manganese all of which are important 1552 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,600 mineral forming elements 1553 01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,520 so it's important to figure out a way to 1554 01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:49,199 constrain these abundances if we want to 1555 01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,719 get at the total mineralogy of mars 1556 01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,000 we also have thermal emission 1557 01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,000 spectroscopy data so this is relying on 1558 01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,159 the emissivity of the surface minerals 1559 01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,080 uh because of that we can't get coverage 1560 01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:01,920 for all of mars so there's relatively 1561 01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,159 dusty areas for which we don't have sort 1562 01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,560 of surface mineralogical data but we can 1563 01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,319 use it to derive a series of sort of 1564 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:10,640 classes that can tell you about sort of 1565 01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:13,120 uh global variations in mineralogy and 1566 01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:14,400 so that's the map that you're seeing 1567 01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:15,759 here 1568 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:17,359 so these two data sets combined we can 1569 01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,199 sort of integrate them to understand the 1570 01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,960 overall mineralogy of the martian 1571 01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,799 surface 1572 01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:24,159 i'll just take a pause and catch my 1573 01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,000 breath a little bit my mask is uh making 1574 01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:28,799 it troublesome to breathe 1575 01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:33,030 okay so 1576 01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,960 our overall process is integrating these 1577 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,199 two data sets um and so there's been 1578 01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,440 some previous work that's done this uh 1579 01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:41,600 this is using in-situ data for mars for 1580 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,319 spirit and opportunity rovers um so for 1581 01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:46,560 these data sets we have rover uh 1582 01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:48,799 capabilities to do geochemical data 1583 01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:51,199 using ap excess data we also have what's 1584 01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,040 called mini tests so that's sort of a 1585 01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:55,040 small thermal emission spectrometer and 1586 01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,800 we can use those data sets to integrate 1587 01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:58,560 them to get at the total mineralogy of 1588 01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,199 both primary and secondary minerals so 1589 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:03,360 for our work we're substituting gamma 1590 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:05,920 ray spectroscopy data for ap excess data 1591 01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,080 test data for many tests and then we 1592 01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,159 don't have moss bar data so that's uh 1593 01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,480 secondary or sorry that's iron minerals 1594 01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:15,120 um so we use test data sorry i actually 1595 01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,400 might take my mask off i'm having a 1596 01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:18,000 little trouble breathing 1597 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:24,229 okay 1598 01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:25,440 so i'm gonna pop through this quickly 1599 01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,920 because i've already talked about that 1600 01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:30,239 okay yeah so we need to derive 1601 01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,679 additional elements that we don't have 1602 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,760 constrained via gamma-ray spectroscopy 1603 01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:36,000 data so a lot of my work was doing that 1604 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,239 um so i developed a variety of methods 1605 01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,080 including ratio methods regression and 1606 01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:42,000 mass balance approaches to get at some 1607 01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,120 secondary 1608 01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:44,800 or to get some additional elemental 1609 01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,960 concentrations and abundances um and i 1610 01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:48,480 can talk about that in detail if people 1611 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,159 want to hear about it but generally 1612 01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:52,080 speaking i've derived a sort of robust 1613 01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,239 way of getting additional oxide 1614 01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:56,159 abundances that aren't constrained with 1615 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,239 grs data and here are some of these sort 1616 01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,320 of ratios that are at play here using 1617 01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,159 both sort of meteoritic data in situ 1618 01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,159 data so on and so forth and then i've 1619 01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,800 reconstructed the maps of what magnesium 1620 01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:08,960 might look like across mars 1621 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,600 and also the other oxide abundances so 1622 01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:13,679 this was successful um 1623 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:15,040 and so now that you have a sense of the 1624 01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,320 methods that we're using and why we're 1625 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,960 using them uh we can talk about eradania 1626 01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:20,640 basin in more detail so this is 1627 01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:23,040 aerodania basin here you can see that 1628 01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:25,120 there's uh this sort of maybe you can 1629 01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:26,880 see it the sort of channel system that's 1630 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,040 kind of up in the north so this is 1631 01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,880 what's called madame valles and up here 1632 01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:32,640 is gusev crater the landing site of the 1633 01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,360 spirit rover an aerodania basin may have 1634 01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,520 been sort of a large system for uh 1635 01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:38,960 through which this channel was connected 1636 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,360 to gusev crater that in the nowakian era 1637 01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:43,760 may have been for a sort of a long time 1638 01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,320 hundreds of millions of years of scale 1639 01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,880 had a paleo lake basin and this paleo 1640 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:50,480 lake basin may have also hosted a 1641 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:54,880 hydrothermal system so uh in 2017 uh uh 1642 01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:57,360 joel mcchelsky uh published a paper 1643 01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,880 about the possibility of an ancient 1644 01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:01,280 hydrothermal seafloor deposit system 1645 01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,360 here um so there's a lot of secondary 1646 01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:05,120 minerals that are indicative of this 1647 01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:08,159 potential system and then in 2021 uh 1648 01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,159 luju osha who is a graduate of georgia 1649 01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,159 tech's phd program published a paper 1650 01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:13,760 that maybe the system was heated 1651 01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:16,239 amigotically by the decay of radiogenic 1652 01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:17,760 heat producing elements including 1653 01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:19,600 thorium and potassium which are both 1654 01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:22,080 enriched in this region so there's some 1655 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,159 evidence and some recent sort of push 1656 01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,480 towards an ancient hydrothermal system 1657 01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:28,159 in this area 1658 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,600 and some of the evidence for this comes 1659 01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:32,080 from the mineralogy also comes from 1660 01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:33,920 magnetic anomalies that we see that may 1661 01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:35,679 be due to the presence of magnetite 1662 01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:37,520 induced by serpentinization of the 1663 01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:39,920 olivine rich crust we also see these 1664 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,760 radioactive element enrichment which may 1665 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,440 be decaying and leading to that thermal 1666 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:44,560 gradient 1667 01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,320 and here is the sort of overall scope 1668 01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,159 for what eradania may have looked like 1669 01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,320 here are some deep basin deposits and 1670 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,520 then here's how the system may have 1671 01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,840 worked according to the machelsky paper 1672 01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:56,080 uh and so the more recent paper suggests 1673 01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,760 here's our sort of region of thorium and 1674 01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,440 potassium enrichment here are our 1675 01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:01,760 magnetic anomalies so overall it seems 1676 01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:03,199 like there's some 1677 01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,880 sort of global data sets indicating the 1678 01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,280 presence of this system 1679 01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:08,800 but there's also been pushback against 1680 01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:11,840 that idea so in 2020 dr david levington 1681 01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,600 posted a paper that sort of interpreted 1682 01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:16,640 the uh the signatures that may that were 1683 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,400 previously interpreted as fluvial or 1684 01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:19,760 liquestrine 1685 01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,400 as potentially low viscosity lava flows 1686 01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:23,840 so reinterpreting these kind of 1687 01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,480 geomorphic features um and also 1688 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,400 suggested that the abundance of 1689 01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,480 secondary minerals that we're finding in 1690 01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:32,719 the eradania region are not 1691 01:13:36,229 --> 01:13:34,560 significantly more enriched within the 1692 01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,239 confines topographic confines of 1693 01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:38,880 varidania than they are outside of it so 1694 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:40,960 maybe this you know wasn't necessarily a 1695 01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,679 putative balea lake uh after all so 1696 01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:45,040 that's sort of the impetus for our work 1697 01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,000 here so we derived the mineralogy for 1698 01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,760 the region using a couple of different 1699 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,600 uh geographic constraints based on 1700 01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,920 t-tests of the abundance of both thorium 1701 01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,000 and potassium and we got at the sort of 1702 01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,480 bulk average mineralogy for the region 1703 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:01,199 and as you can see we see mostly uh sort 1704 01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,080 of relatively unaltered mafic mineralogy 1705 01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,080 so we've got very high olivine abundance 1706 01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,920 and if you know anything about olivine 1707 01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,159 it weathers very quickly uh with just a 1708 01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:12,320 little bit of water so we if this lake 1709 01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,840 existed for hundreds of millions of 1710 01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:16,080 years we shouldn't see such high olivine 1711 01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,800 abundances we're at about 28 percent 1712 01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:20,400 we use two different methods of deriving 1713 01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,320 the magnesium you can see that they're 1714 01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:24,560 uh corroborating each other 1715 01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,120 quite well um so that's a pretty good 1716 01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:28,560 sort of indication that we've got high 1717 01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,480 olivine here we've also got about 10 1718 01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:32,400 weight percent of secondary minerals in 1719 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,040 total um so that is 1720 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,960 you know that's that's a lot but it's 1721 01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,560 not necessarily more than the martian 1722 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,800 crustal averages for those uh so what 1723 01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,400 we're seeing here is relatively 1724 01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:45,040 unaltered mafic mineralogy which is not 1725 01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:46,480 consistent with what you would expect 1726 01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:52,310 so uh in order to look at a different 1727 01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:54,480 data set and maybe sort of investigate 1728 01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,800 uh you know if there are other ways to 1729 01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:58,480 to corroborate that we were looking at 1730 01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:00,800 chrism data which is uh visible to near 1731 01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,960 infrared spectral data of the region um 1732 01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,960 so these are lots of the sort of uh 1733 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:06,960 chrism stamps that we investigated that 1734 01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,040 i investigated um and we were looking 1735 01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:10,400 specifically for 1736 01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:12,800 uh morphe silica which is a very useful 1737 01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,440 mineraloid for reconstructing a paleo 1738 01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:17,600 environment because the sort of shape 1739 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,360 and the depth of the absorptions can 1740 01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,440 kind of tell you the extent of uh 1741 01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:23,120 interaction with water so it can be a 1742 01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:25,280 proxy for hydrothermal versus epithermal 1743 01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:27,440 conditions and so on and so forth so we 1744 01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:28,880 were looking for this mineraloid in 1745 01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,800 order to do that kind of reconstruction 1746 01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:33,120 um we found two chrism stamps that had 1747 01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:35,679 uh that had a more basilica they are up 1748 01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:38,880 here and over here so these were our two 1749 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:40,000 kind of 1750 01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:41,840 main ways of being able to derive 1751 01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,000 insight into that question and both of 1752 01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,320 them seem to be in sort of paraglacial 1753 01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,000 or aeolian settings 1754 01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,159 so in this chrism stamp we see mostly 1755 01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,400 what looks like redistributed aeolian 1756 01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,480 amorphous silica and then in this chrism 1757 01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:56,320 stamp over here which i'm showing just 1758 01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:57,199 here 1759 01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,960 shows this sort of sawtooth pattern 1760 01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,400 which i'm not sure how well you can see 1761 01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,920 on this structure and that's more 1762 01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:03,520 indicative of relatively recent 1763 01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,760 paraglacial processes so neither of 1764 01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:07,360 these seem to be sort of bedrock 1765 01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,239 settings or consistent with sort of uh 1766 01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,400 kind of a hydrothermal system but maybe 1767 01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:13,920 more something like redistribution or 1768 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:16,000 paraglacial processes and this was 1769 01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:18,400 corroborated by our spectral analysis 1770 01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,239 you can see some of our data plots in 1771 01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,159 the um the area of aeolian and 1772 01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:24,080 paraglacial or in the sort of overlapped 1773 01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:25,679 region but nothing very clearly 1774 01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,360 indicating bedrock 1775 01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:29,120 and we do that by looking at the sort of 1776 01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:30,239 position and the depth of the 1777 01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:31,840 absorptions that you can see here in 1778 01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:34,400 this vnir spectral plot 1779 01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,679 so we've come up with two different 1780 01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,040 models that we're sort of offering for 1781 01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:39,120 the overall region one of them is a 1782 01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,800 mafic volcanism model which does not 1783 01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,520 necessitate any hydrothermalism at all 1784 01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:45,199 and so we suggest that the secondary 1785 01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,199 minerals may have been formed by 1786 01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:49,040 incipient alteration of the basaltic 1787 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,320 material or sort of fumorolic action so 1788 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,159 if you have sort of explosive lava flows 1789 01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:56,080 where you get or explosive volcanism 1790 01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,920 where you get a lot of volatilization 1791 01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,760 these can sort of quickly alter your ash 1792 01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,679 and potentially lead to the formation of 1793 01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,880 those secondary 1794 01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:05,199 minerals that we're seeing we also offer 1795 01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:08,080 a hydrothermal and mafic model where you 1796 01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,320 have some hydrothermalism but you also 1797 01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:12,320 have some effusive low viscosity 1798 01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:15,280 volcanic flows that then sort of 1799 01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:17,280 create a mafic cap essentially over the 1800 01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,360 evidence for hydrothermal minerals so 1801 01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,360 these are our sort of uh two ways of 1802 01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,199 potentially tying everything that we're 1803 01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,440 seeing together the secondary minerals 1804 01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:27,520 as well as the evidence for sort of a 1805 01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,320 mafic mineralogy overall so our 1806 01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:31,920 conclusions are that the magnesium in 1807 01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:34,239 the aerodynamia region is on par with 1808 01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:35,679 global crustal averages which is not 1809 01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:38,560 something i went into but is about true 1810 01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,400 the regional mineralogy is consistent 1811 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,560 with unaltered basaltic material and 1812 01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:44,640 finally that spectral analysis seems to 1813 01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:46,400 indicate that the amorphous silica is 1814 01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,239 more consistent with aeolian and glacial 1815 01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:50,159 activity than it is with hydrothermal 1816 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,360 activity 1817 01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:54,480 um so thank you i'll also thank uh james 1818 01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,120 ray dr sunnity coronatillokay don hood 1819 01:18:00,750 --> 01:17:58,640 gus bates and alco for their help with 1820 01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:00,760 this but thanks very much 1821 01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:09,270 all right does anybody have questions i 1822 01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:11,040 think we have time for about one 1823 01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,800 question 1824 01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:14,560 anybody online either 1825 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:17,360 is there any ques no okay 1826 01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,110 uh when you talk about these 1827 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,360 hydrothermal systems are these proposed 1828 01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,880 to be low temperature or high 1829 01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:28,159 temperature 1830 01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:30,560 um i think this would be relatively high 1831 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,000 temperature um i guess depending on 1832 01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:35,760 you know the concentration of these 1833 01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:39,199 radiogenic heat producing uh elements uh 1834 01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:42,159 sort of in the upper crust i guess um 1835 01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,440 but yeah i think it'd be relatively high 1836 01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:44,880 temperature if you wanted to look into 1837 01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:46,960 it in more detail the oja 2021 paper 1838 01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:49,040 provides the thermal gradients 1839 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,320 that you'd expect so um so yeah 1840 01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:55,120 but sort of uh centrally there is 1841 01:18:58,709 --> 01:18:56,800 sufficient sort of energy gaps or 1842 01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,719 gradients in this kind of 1843 01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:00,880 uh in this expected hydrothermal system 1844 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,320 for you know exploitability by life 1845 01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:06,480 thank you 1846 01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:10,719 that was awesome um our next speaker 1847 01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:13,199 will be abigail russ 1848 01:19:17,950 --> 01:19:55,669 [Applause] 1849 01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:08,229 thank you 1850 01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,960 hello uh my name is abigail russ i am an 1851 01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,880 undergraduate working with dr rivera 1852 01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,199 hernandez in the gt planetsis lab and 1853 01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:18,560 today i'm going to be talking about my 1854 01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:19,679 research what i've been doing for the 1855 01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,520 past few semesters which is simulating 1856 01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,199 mud in mars-like conditions and 1857 01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:25,440 basically looking at how mud or rather 1858 01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:27,199 mud flows behave under mars-like 1859 01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,920 conditions now why do we care about mud 1860 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,440 on mars well 1861 01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:33,040 a little bit of background information 1862 01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:33,760 so 1863 01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,679 recently we've been getting a lot of 1864 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:37,600 much higher resolution images of the 1865 01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,120 martian surface and we have come to 1866 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,280 realize that what we thought were once 1867 01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:43,520 volcanic features may actually not be 1868 01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:45,600 volcanic features but rather mud 1869 01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:48,719 volcanism because we have thought about 1870 01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:50,960 the conditions on mars and realized mud 1871 01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:52,320 probably behaves a little bit 1872 01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,239 differently in such a low pressure low 1873 01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,000 temperature and low gravity environment 1874 01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,560 specifically mud behaves rather like 1875 01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:00,880 lava flows on earth do 1876 01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,560 and so this is kind of relevant because 1877 01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,560 where there is mud there is water and so 1878 01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,719 knowing a bit more about where the mud 1879 01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,639 is coming from where the mud is forming 1880 01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:10,239 and what the mud formations look like on 1881 01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:11,840 mars can kind of point to the paleo 1882 01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:14,239 climate of mars and seeing where there 1883 01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:17,120 was water at one point 1884 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:18,159 so 1885 01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,320 with dr peter brosh uh in his lab at i 1886 01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,239 believe the university of london where 1887 01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:26,960 he actually began to do some experiments 1888 01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,360 on mud in these low pressure low 1889 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:31,679 temperature conditions now obviously we 1890 01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,320 can't simulate the gravity of mars here 1891 01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,239 on earth but we got pretty close and 1892 01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,080 what we saw is what we expected that the 1893 01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,400 mud in this very low pressure condition 1894 01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,040 behaves a lot like lava we see lobes we 1895 01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:45,360 see cavities we see voids 1896 01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:47,199 and so this kind of motivated us to take 1897 01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,840 a much closer look at the mud in these 1898 01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,440 conditions and start to build up a 1899 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,520 computer simulation so we can kind of 1900 01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,960 better gauge what this is going to look 1901 01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:56,560 like 1902 01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,360 so here's another example of a mud flow 1903 01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:01,520 on mars versus a mud flow on earth or a 1904 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:02,960 lava flow on earth and a blood flow on 1905 01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,000 mars and you can kind of see the 1906 01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:05,520 similarities between the two and kind of 1907 01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,560 understand 1908 01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:08,159 our starting point and why we took an 1909 01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,629 so why are we modeling mud and rather 1910 01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:16,480 just not doing experiments and basically 1911 01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:18,159 it comes down to it's really hard to 1912 01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,800 make mars-like conditions here on earth 1913 01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,560 and in the computer simulation we can 1914 01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:24,480 actually fine-tune the parameters get 1915 01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,920 the gravity better get the temperature 1916 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:28,000 better have wind speeds and really 1917 01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:29,280 better simulate 1918 01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:30,880 everything and get a much better picture 1919 01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:33,280 of the morphology of mud in these 1920 01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,400 conditions 1921 01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:36,320 and to do so we use this program called 1922 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,080 console multiphysics on console is 1923 01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,480 traditionally used for engineering but 1924 01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,840 recently a lot more earth and 1925 01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:43,360 atmospheric scientists have started 1926 01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:44,719 using it for 1927 01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,840 uh fluid-like simulations 1928 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:49,760 so here is the data that dr brosh 1929 01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:52,000 provided us with basically he took two 1930 01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:54,719 tubes of mud um turned down the pressure 1931 01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:56,159 there's a lot going on in this graph 1932 01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,280 we'll kind of parse through that in a 1933 01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,440 second um turned down the pressure and 1934 01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:01,920 watched how the mud behaves 1935 01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:04,560 and what he saw was that the top of the 1936 01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:06,800 mud tubes got a lot colder than the 1937 01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,920 bottom and that is because of 1938 01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:09,520 evaporative cooling in these low 1939 01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,280 pressure conditions evaporative cooling 1940 01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,760 becomes the dominant cooling force and 1941 01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,440 we see 1942 01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:17,679 these bubbles forming and rapid rapid 1943 01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,480 heat loss at the top and because of 1944 01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:22,239 rapid heat loss we get things like crust 1945 01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:25,120 formations and lobes and volcanic-like 1946 01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:27,199 behavior in mud 1947 01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,880 so uh this is kind of a little picture 1948 01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:30,480 of the console simulation if you're not 1949 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:32,000 familiar with console don't worry you 1950 01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:33,520 don't really need to understand this to 1951 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:34,400 understand 1952 01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,400 where i'm going in this presentation 1953 01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:38,880 basically we looked at a 1954 01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,159 mud-like fluid with certain initial 1955 01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:44,960 temperatures and initial conditions 1956 01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:46,719 based off of what we expect the mud to 1957 01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:49,199 behave like 1958 01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,760 and so this is the data that we found 1959 01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:54,480 as you can see we see a similar pattern 1960 01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,840 in the top of the tube being a lot 1961 01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:59,840 colder than the bottom of the tube as 1962 01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:02,159 the pressure dropped 1963 01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,360 here's a little animation of the 1964 01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,120 simulation uh 1965 01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,440 some fun little visuals for you uh on 1966 01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:08,400 the 1967 01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:15,360 evaporative cooling this shows evidence 1968 01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:16,719 that we are in fact observing the 1969 01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:18,560 evaporative cooling that we expected to 1970 01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,520 see 1971 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:21,360 um 1972 01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,719 yeah 1973 01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:25,120 so looking comparing the two data sets 1974 01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:27,040 we see once again very similar behaviors 1975 01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,719 however it should be noted we don't see 1976 01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:30,400 them at the same degree 1977 01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:31,120 so 1978 01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,040 the uh brochure experiments done in the 1979 01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,360 lab we saw a much more rapid drop than 1980 01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,280 in the computer simulations and that can 1981 01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:39,199 be due to a number of reasons mostly we 1982 01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,800 expected that 1983 01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:43,040 in our simulation we didn't have any 1984 01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:44,560 sort of drafts didn't have any sort of 1985 01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:45,920 wins it was a very stationary 1986 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,080 environment whereas in the real world 1987 01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,920 real world experiment 1988 01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:52,239 um they had some wind flow within the 1989 01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:57,830 moving forward we have started to try to 1990 01:25:01,669 --> 01:24:59,760 build up an actual mud volcano in 1991 01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:01,679 console now kind of using this as a 1992 01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:03,360 proof of concept test knowing that we 1993 01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,920 can in fact do mud-like simulations in 1994 01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:07,920 console we want to build an actual mud 1995 01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:09,920 volcano and the first step of that is 1996 01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:12,320 looking at just a single lobe of mud 1997 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:15,040 flowing in these conditions 1998 01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:16,480 and specifically we dropped a two 1999 01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:19,360 centimeter two centimeter radius a 2000 01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:22,320 little sphere of mud pretty much and we 2001 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,520 ran it over a series of conditions 2002 01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,280 specifically temperature pressure 2003 01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:29,360 gravity and three different viscosities 2004 01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,000 and this is to look at what parameters 2005 01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:33,760 actually matter when it comes to mud 2006 01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:35,520 flow is it the temperature is it the 2007 01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:36,960 pressure is it the gravity or is it the 2008 01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,120 viscosity and we found 2009 01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:41,520 we found a lot of data we got 16 2010 01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:44,159 specific plots but what's actually 2011 01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:47,120 relevant from these plots 2012 01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:49,440 so looking at constant viscosity this is 2013 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:52,000 under the viscosity of i believe 2014 01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:54,880 50 pascals per second which is think 2015 01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,760 like halfway between water and honey uh 2016 01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:00,000 and looking at this we noticed first of 2017 01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,000 all that the earth like one behaved as 2018 01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:03,840 we would expect we saw it drop we kind 2019 01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:05,679 of saw it flow a little bit it formed a 2020 01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:07,760 bunch of different droplets and the mars 2021 01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:09,840 one stayed relatively together it stayed 2022 01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:12,960 relatively uniform and had this kind of 2023 01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,320 single lobe shape single lobe morphology 2024 01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,000 which is what we were wanting to see 2025 01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:20,159 because once again behaves like global 2026 01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,310 does 2027 01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,280 [Music] 2028 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,520 so looking at differing viscosities this 2029 01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:27,840 is relevant because we don't entirely 2030 01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:31,280 know what type of mud formed these mud 2031 01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,679 volcanoes formed these formations so 2032 01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,280 looking at differing viscosities we can 2033 01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,960 kind of see 2034 01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,719 what actually once again what actually 2035 01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,280 matters and we in the from the data that 2036 01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:43,440 we gathered learned that viscosity 2037 01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:44,880 matters more than we might have thought 2038 01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:46,960 because in the lower viscosity we saw a 2039 01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:48,480 huge difference between earth-like and 2040 01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:49,679 mars-like 2041 01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,280 conditions whereas in the high 2042 01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,520 viscosities they look almost identical 2043 01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:55,360 so this is kind of illustrating the 2044 01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:57,760 points that when we're going to analyze 2045 01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,040 these formations we need to be taking 2046 01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,120 into consideration what kind of mud was 2047 01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,760 making these formations and 2048 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:06,000 all of this is to say there's a lot more 2049 01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:07,840 to the volcanic features on mars than we 2050 01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:13,590 so some wider applications once again 2051 01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:16,480 why does any of this actually matter so 2052 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:18,560 as you can see the mars rovers are 2053 01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:20,239 starting to see a lot of interesting 2054 01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,159 volcanic or mud-based activity and we 2055 01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,159 want to be able to identify we want to 2056 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,400 know what is actually going on and it 2057 01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:28,960 kind of can show us some insight into 2058 01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:31,360 the past oceans past lakes past water 2059 01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,280 formations and also potential 2060 01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,199 astrobiology targets because where 2061 01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:36,880 there's water there's life 2062 01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:39,840 and overall looking at this mud we can 2063 01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,840 generally improve our understanding so 2064 01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,679 we can better identify mud flows and mud 2065 01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:45,120 volcanoes and just 2066 01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,800 in general what is going on on the 2067 01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:48,480 martian surface 2068 01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:50,719 um 2069 01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:52,080 these are kind of some acknowledgements 2070 01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:53,760 and sources thank you again to dr bear 2071 01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,159 hernandez uh for helping with this dr 2072 01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:57,840 jacob adler who's i don't think he's 2073 01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:59,679 here right now um 2074 01:28:02,750 --> 01:28:00,400 yeah 2075 01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:02,760 any any questions 2076 01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,629 thank you abigail is great does anybody 2077 01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:12,320 have any questions i think we have time 2078 01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:18,390 so you've investigated what uh 2079 01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:20,159 mud flows look like on mars and how they 2080 01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:23,120 look like lava on earth but have you 2081 01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,560 done any modeling or has any other 2082 01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:26,880 modeling been done on what lava looks 2083 01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:29,040 like on mars uh that's a great question 2084 01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:30,400 um so going back to the differing 2085 01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:32,159 viscosity slide this is why this is 2086 01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:34,000 relevant because lava has a very high 2087 01:28:37,669 --> 01:28:36,000 viscosity i believe it's like 2088 01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:37,679 200 pascals per second i don't know off 2089 01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,480 the top of my head um this this plot 2090 01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,000 right here is kind of showing how at 2091 01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:44,400 higher viscosities factors like pressure 2092 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:45,920 and temperature don't matter nearly as 2093 01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:49,600 much as the lower viscosity flows 2094 01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:50,960 um so we haven't done any particular 2095 01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,440 experiments with lava but it's less 2096 01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:55,280 relevant to understanding the morphology 2097 01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,270 [Music] 2098 01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:03,440 do you have any current theories as to 2099 01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:06,320 what the mud composition would be and 2100 01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,440 what the formation mechanisms of these 2101 01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:11,840 volcanoes would be um so in terms of 2102 01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:14,080 formation mechanisms let me go back up 2103 01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,000 quite a few slides um 2104 01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,760 this is kind of the current theory where 2105 01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,560 we see this feeder dike evaporative 2106 01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:22,880 cooling and then general 2107 01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:25,600 flow in this way as to the composition 2108 01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:27,199 itself we haven't actually started 2109 01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,880 looking into this this is very new 2110 01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:30,560 research we've only really gotten into 2111 01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:32,320 this uh and 2112 01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:34,639 the past i thought gosh couple like half 2113 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,199 year i want to say um so we're trying to 2114 01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,280 first understand the general and then go 2115 01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:41,360 into the specifics of what the mud 2116 01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:51,590 all right are there any other questions 2117 01:29:54,110 --> 01:29:53,510 if not thank you again abigail that was 2118 01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:54,120 awesome 2119 01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:03,669 and our last speaker in this session is 2120 01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:01,189 is 2121 01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:06,239 an undergraduate physics student here at 2122 01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:08,880 georgia tech and i have recently started 2123 01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:11,679 a research project on the arabia terra 2124 01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:15,120 region of mars with dr rivera hernandez 2125 01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,550 first i'll give you a little background 2126 01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,800 on the existing research and then i'll 2127 01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:24,880 tell you about my specific project 2128 01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:27,520 including my objectives 2129 01:31:33,350 --> 01:31:30,800 methodology and results so 2130 01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:33,360 70 percent of mars's surface has been 2131 01:31:39,030 --> 01:31:36,000 resurfaced by volcanic activity which 2132 01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:39,040 can't be accounted for by the existing 2133 01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:41,440 volcanoes or the volcanoes we already 2134 01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:42,880 know about 2135 01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:45,280 this has inspired a search for other 2136 01:31:49,990 --> 01:31:49,040 sources of this volcanic material 2137 01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,000 and 2138 01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:52,080 we are starting to consider other other 2139 01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:54,080 sources on earth we have something 2140 01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:56,880 called a collapsed volcano like crater 2141 01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:58,719 lake in oregon which you see in the top 2142 01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:00,239 picture there 2143 01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:02,960 crater lake used to be a high elevation 2144 01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:05,600 volcano and has since fallen to around 2145 01:32:08,790 --> 01:32:07,679 the same elevation as the surrounding 2146 01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:08,800 land 2147 01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:11,600 if it exists on mars it if it exists on 2148 01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:14,080 earth it could exist on mars too and 2149 01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,159 there have been some proposed 2150 01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:18,480 collapsed volcanoes in the arabia terra 2151 01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:19,760 region of 2152 01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:21,760 mars 2153 01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:24,880 for some context here is a topographical 2154 01:32:29,189 --> 01:32:27,760 map of mars with the arabia terra region 2155 01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:29,199 circled 2156 01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:33,040 zooming in we can see the patera which 2157 01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:35,520 is a bowl-shaped depression on a 2158 01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:38,000 planetary surface called eden patera 2159 01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:40,159 it's the number one candidate for a 2160 01:32:46,149 --> 01:32:42,159 collapsed volcano and i'll talk a little 2161 01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,159 bit more about this particular patera 2162 01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:48,239 it was once thought of as an impact 2163 01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:50,880 crater although it doesn't have a lot of 2164 01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,040 the characteristics of an impact crater 2165 01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:55,360 like near circular geometry 2166 01:32:59,189 --> 01:32:57,360 a central peak and 2167 01:33:03,110 --> 01:32:59,199 and raised rim 2168 01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:03,120 so these factors have contributed to the 2169 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:05,760 the hypothesis that this might have been 2170 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:08,400 a volcano in the past 2171 01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,360 my project is to test this hypothesis to 2172 01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:13,679 look and look into the mineralogy of the 2173 01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:15,360 surrounding area 2174 01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:18,639 there are some minerals that 2175 01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:19,679 that 2176 01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:22,800 are indicative of 2177 01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:25,520 altered volcanic material and they 2178 01:33:29,350 --> 01:33:26,719 include 2179 01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,360 silica glass mechtites zeolites and 2180 01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:31,679 sulfates 2181 01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:34,080 each element and mineral has its own 2182 01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,920 spectral signature and an instrument 2183 01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:37,360 called chrism aboard the mars 2184 01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:40,000 reconnaissance orbiter can record these 2185 01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:42,639 spectra and i can look at them to try to 2186 01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:49,990 going back to eden patera we can look at 2187 01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:51,840 this map which includes all of these 2188 01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:54,400 little bow tie shapes which are chrism 2189 01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:55,520 images 2190 01:33:59,350 --> 01:33:57,120 the first thought would be to look at 2191 01:34:01,110 --> 01:33:59,360 eden patera to determine its mineralogy 2192 01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:01,120 but unfortunately we don't have any 2193 01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:03,760 charism images on eden patera 2194 01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:07,040 however if eden patera was a volcano 2195 01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:09,040 once there may be 2196 01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:11,120 minerals in the surrounding area 2197 01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:14,000 the crater i have circled is 200 2198 01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:16,480 kilometers away from eden patera 2199 01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:19,440 this is an existing model showing the 2200 01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:21,840 thickness of the volcanic deposits as a 2201 01:34:25,430 --> 01:34:24,320 function of distance and eden patera is 2202 01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,440 labeled there 2203 01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:28,000 and the thickest deposits are within 500 2204 01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:30,480 kilometers from the patera so the data 2205 01:34:34,390 --> 01:34:31,840 i'm looking at should be within that 2206 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:34,400 range and if there are volcanic 2207 01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:36,880 materials i should be able to find them 2208 01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:41,520 using the available chrism data 2209 01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:44,320 this is that image i had circled 2210 01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:47,040 in the crater nearby eden patera 2211 01:34:53,189 --> 01:34:49,840 the process is to use something called a 2212 01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:53,199 parameter which is essentially a filter 2213 01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:54,800 that takes out parts of the light 2214 01:34:57,430 --> 01:34:55,840 spectrum 2215 01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:57,440 that don't have 2216 01:35:02,229 --> 01:35:00,000 indicative spectral features of a 2217 01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:02,239 particular mineral 2218 01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:03,920 this is an example of one of those 2219 01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:06,400 parameters this shows 2220 01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:09,280 this creates a kind of heat map 2221 01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:11,440 where you can find 2222 01:35:14,070 --> 01:35:12,239 find 2223 01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:14,080 minerals and this parameter helps us 2224 01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,159 find silica so the bright spots should 2225 01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:18,320 show a silica now you might notice there 2226 01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:20,080 are these big stripes running north and 2227 01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:23,440 south across the image and that is a a 2228 01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:26,080 result of how chrism takes data 2229 01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:28,159 essentially it starts at a shallow angle 2230 01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:30,560 and takes a panorama of the land below 2231 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:32,480 which is why we have kind of this bow 2232 01:35:36,709 --> 01:35:33,600 tie shape 2233 01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:36,719 and different parts of the 2234 01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:38,639 the sensor are more sensitive to 2235 01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:40,480 different kinds of light so 2236 01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,000 we will see some streaking down the 2237 01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:44,320 entire image it's unlikely we have 2238 01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:46,000 silica channels running north and south 2239 01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:48,400 across the crater so we have to take 2240 01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:50,080 that into consideration what's more 2241 01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:53,600 likely is if we have 2242 01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,600 bright spots going across multiple parts 2243 01:35:59,270 --> 01:35:56,960 of the sensor 2244 01:36:03,109 --> 01:35:59,280 and if they also correspond with the 2245 01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:03,119 geology below this part of the 2246 01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:06,239 of the the image corresponds with the 2247 01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,320 crater's rim 2248 01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:10,080 the next step is to recombine all of 2249 01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:12,800 this data and create a spectrum 2250 01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:14,800 and here is the spectrum from that 2251 01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,719 particular region of interest 2252 01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:19,199 you can see absorption lines at 1.9 and 2253 01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:21,280 2.2 microns 2254 01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:24,560 in my in in my data on the left and on 2255 01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:26,320 your right is the 2256 01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:29,920 example spectra a spectrum from 2257 01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,800 the chrism team of hydrated silica and 2258 01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:35,440 you can see those same 1.9 and 2.2 2259 01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:37,040 absorption lines 2260 01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,520 so this is a vote of confidence for 2261 01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:41,520 silica in the area 2262 01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:43,920 another way to use chrismdata is to 2263 01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:44,960 create 2264 01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:46,719 color images by assigning different 2265 01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,440 parameters different colors in an rgb 2266 01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:50,800 image 2267 01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,960 this introduces another another level of 2268 01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:54,800 nuance so you can see multiple minerals 2269 01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,280 in some areas and as you can see here 2270 01:37:01,990 --> 01:36:59,199 there might be aluminum smectite in the 2271 01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:02,000 yellow areas and i say mites because you 2272 01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:04,480 have to look at the spectrum otherwise 2273 01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:06,000 you don't know for sure these are 2274 01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,360 essentially 2275 01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:09,600 guesses based on the software 2276 01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,360 so i took another region of interest in 2277 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,199 a very similar location you can see it's 2278 01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:15,040 right next to the first region of 2279 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:17,840 interest and i created another spectrum 2280 01:37:24,310 --> 01:37:20,560 and this time we also have an absorption 2281 01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,320 at 2.3 microns and this is actually 2282 01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:26,880 consistent with magnesium or 2283 01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:28,719 iron spectite 2284 01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:29,520 the 2285 01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:31,040 software might have guessed aluminum 2286 01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:32,880 smacktype because of the 2.2 micron 2287 01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:35,199 absorption line which we know might have 2288 01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,400 actually been 2289 01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:38,960 silica so in this case we may have more 2290 01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:40,639 than one mineral in the area which is 2291 01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,760 why we have this particular spectrum 2292 01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:45,760 both of these minerals are 2293 01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:48,239 consistent with volcanic activity on 2294 01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:49,199 mars 2295 01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,080 there 2296 01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:52,320 is a lot more data to be analyzed and 2297 01:37:57,430 --> 01:37:54,239 i'm going to spend a lot of time looking 2298 01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:57,440 at other chrism images as well as 2299 01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,440 potentially doing a thermal analysis of 2300 01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:01,520 the area to determine if 2301 01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:03,520 the the thermal signatures of the area 2302 01:38:08,629 --> 01:38:05,840 are consistent with volcanic material 2303 01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,639 so there may be volcanoes it remains to 2304 01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:10,080 be seen and 2305 01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:11,920 more work will be done thank you very 2306 01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:13,040 much 2307 01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:19,510 oh does anyone have questions 2308 01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:22,080 all right thank you grace um we have 2309 01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:23,280 plenty of time for questions so if 2310 01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:24,480 anybody has 2311 01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:31,350 are there any hypotheses as to why those 2312 01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:33,199 minerals are on the edge of that crater 2313 01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:36,080 or if they were you know deposited from 2314 01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:37,840 volcanism nearby and then might have 2315 01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:39,280 been stored in in the edge for any 2316 01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:40,639 particular reason 2317 01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:44,000 sure so um actually related to this is 2318 01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:45,119 um 2319 01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,520 you know if you if you imagine there was 2320 01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:48,880 a volcano 2321 01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:50,880 there might be volcanic material 2322 01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:52,560 covering the entire surface and so you 2323 01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,480 might wonder why this whole image isn't 2324 01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:56,239 just bright with silica 2325 01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:58,400 and the reason is because these 2326 01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:00,719 volcanoes existed a really long time ago 2327 01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:02,800 and there's a lot of 2328 01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,040 martian dust covering everything and 2329 01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:07,360 that's why we only get little peaks and 2330 01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:08,080 so 2331 01:39:12,629 --> 01:39:10,480 if there is an outcropping of silica 2332 01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:12,639 especially on the rim of a crater it may 2333 01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:16,000 be because that particular part of the 2334 01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:18,239 crater doesn't have as much dust and i 2335 01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:20,960 think that's that's why i 2336 01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:23,679 am also a little new so 2337 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,440 there may be other contributing reasons 2338 01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:27,520 but i think that's that's 2339 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:38,790 any other questions 2340 01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,950 thank you is the chrism 2341 01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:42,480 uh instrument still working on the 2342 01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:44,000 spacecraft 2343 01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:45,920 no i don't believe it is i mean i think 2344 01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:47,840 it it is um 2345 01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,520 it is mostly done taking data i think 2346 01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:52,960 which explains why we can't get direct 2347 01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:55,520 data from the crater yeah okay 2348 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,750 any other questions 2349 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:08,900 okay if not thank you so much grace 2350 01:40:08,910 --> 01:40:14,629 [Applause] 2351 01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:16,950 and with that that is the end of our 2352 01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:20,320 mars session um and now it is lunchtime 2353 01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:22,320 so we will take a break and then be back 2354 01:40:33,910 --> 01:40:24,000 for